Yes - the Springmeier doc was the one I was thinking of. Whilst I am sceptical about some of it, there's more than enough kernel of truth kind of thing to make at least the programming side of things a realistic possibility. It would, however, be much, much harder to do than the impression created in the document (plus it wouldn't be as ridiculously complex as they make out).
Anyway - yes, I also got the impression that TH is the superior one, kind of like the overseer or mentor or something. The other two come across as so very childlike sometimes (hence part of my suspicion about MK). And they do seem to defer in that sense. Likewise the possible inferiority complex, which I would also agree with. I think you are correct there.
Perhaps one of the best of your insights (amongst many!) was the desire to establish reality, but not having the skills to do it. So they take some weird mishmash of stuff they may have read or picked up on and turn it into a belief/system, and then of course have to resist any challenges to it, and overcome any internal (or external) inconsistencies or illogic. They do get quite angry when challenged ('triggers'), and won't answer direct questions, like I said.
And yes, it is tragic. I do think the intensive bombardment of everyone (including 'conspiracy theorists' as well as anyone who just wants to know what's going on) with cognitive dissonance has become a significantly increasing tactic, and relatively recently too (despite the high-speed internet having been around for quite some time now). I also think this 'false events' narrative has a lot to do with it, and it's interesting how that specifically targets critical thinkers, so to speak. It's quite worrying, actually.
Perhaps we could see the three stooges (or however many there really are - I think you may be right about three) as victims of that.
There is no point to your existence anymore here (or anywhere!😂) is there.
You lost quite spectacularly before, including the purging of 6 weeks of your feeble work, for being a criminal stalker. then you returned & instantly made an embarrassment of yourself, had several public mental breakdowns, had to go on holiday and then became almost inarticulate with anal exasperation and rage. Now you are dedicated to doing the same thing for 17 more months you boast, while bouncing about on your laptop & leaking all over your lunch.
What a masochistically pathetic, miserable no-life piece of excrement you are, sloshing about in your own sewer of LIMBO hell.
And why do you imagine we would even consider carrying on with you for even one more comment ?
🙄😂🤣😂
tROT ON some more for everyone's amusement here. I notice only EverLyin has bothered supporting you a few times out of your 1,000+ comments , no one else gives a shit because you've saturation this place in so much of it already.
ProLie you are in some nightmare thinking it is still a dream.
You are so lost that you can now never return.
How many team members have you lost since this began. How many holidays have you had to take in last few weeks? The insults you use have no substance while you have less substance by the hour. Was it really worth it ? Why are you not baiting HIBBERT instead of people who tried to originally help the worthless sell out RDHall, is it because you are really working for HIBBERT all along?
I saw The Ipcress File it must've been at least 20-30 years ago now, but I really did enjoy it. Possibly time to re-watch it now you reminded me of it. Interesting that came out (like the Prisoner) during the classic MK-Ultra time. I would imagine that's a very different type of mind control to the Monarch idea of starting with very young children and inducing MPD. I can certainly accept the idea that specifically selected children (e.g. offspring of the controllers) are subjected to (possibly simulated, with modern technology) trauma for a short period (say, 6-18 months) in order to induce a few dozen alters (or 33, perhaps), each of which is then very carefully given specific talents, so to speak. I think that's certainly feasible as well as psychologically realistic (there's a lot of this in my Katrina story, for fear of spoilers).
The older the subject/victim, though, the more difficult it is to get them to dissociate. So instead, as you suggest, with adults they'd go for the induced PTSD option. Psychic driving and learned helplessness etc.
My theory about how to do it on a collective population is to realise that each member of the population is still an individual and perceives things as an individual (especially following a neoliberal atomisation of society inducing helplessness). Because it's the same specific trauma, however, the required 'reinforcement' (on the neuronal level) simply comes from each individual in the group observing each other and even just talking with each other. But they all respond in the same way, so it only 'looks' like 'mass' brainwashing. Plus of course humans are social creatures, so they need to feel part of a group, and that applies equally to sharing the same opinions and feelings.
I also think that's a good insight about the alt media. It follows on from the cognitive infiltration strategy. Given that the genuine 'resistance' is going to come from alternative types (who display more critical thinking and may even be more psychologically robust), it's clear that group needs to be specially targeted. So they establish alt media sites and fake 'conspiracy theorist' influencers and spread 'harmful misinformation' (lol). Which is why a lot of the alt has become disturbingly fascist. It's one of the things I admire about Iain tbh - he's clearly rejected that stuff. In fact, that may be one method of distinguishing a genuine person from a spook - a genuine would not sow discord and right-wing stuff.
So I think you may be right about the blubby bee in the bonnet - this is one of the real problems now - not immediately knowing which ones to trust until after having listened to them for a while. I myself have not been immune to thinking someone was worth listening to to begin with, and it took me a fair while to understand/realise all of this. Probably because I started thinking about all these things before the cognitive infiltration really got going, so this problem didn't really exist then. And it must be virtually impossible for 'new arrivals' to have even the slightest clue what or who to believe. To call it a minefield is an understatement.
Maybe that's another requirement - a list of bona fides.
So yes, I do think this is a targeted and systematic operation. I certainly haven't watched any mainstream 'news' for at least more than a decade now, or any TV for that matter. The most I'll do is watch a movie online at entirely my own discretion. Similarly I haven't really watched any alt media stuff either. It is quite amazing and how refreshing/clean one's mind can be by only choosing to read stuff instead of watch. Then there's the period of respites which greatly help...
ProLie- it was mentioned that pt2 would be the following week. Yet again you show what a compulsive liar and feeble baiter you are.
As for copy & paste games- you have proven to be the most fanatical practitioner of that. So either shut up, fuck off, or get a grip- oh, sorry, I forgot ; it's TOO LATE for any of that. You are set in your desperate channel of self destruction, and nothing can prevent it from occurring now.
tROT ON, inside & out, as is your compulsion & only respite.
😂🤣😂
🦇💩🤡🐛
Yes - the Springmeier doc was the one I was thinking of. Whilst I am sceptical about some of it, there's more than enough kernel of truth kind of thing to make at least the programming side of things a realistic possibility. It would, however, be much, much harder to do than the impression created in the document (plus it wouldn't be as ridiculously complex as they make out).
Anyway - yes, I also got the impression that TH is the superior one, kind of like the overseer or mentor or something. The other two come across as so very childlike sometimes (hence part of my suspicion about MK). And they do seem to defer in that sense. Likewise the possible inferiority complex, which I would also agree with. I think you are correct there.
Perhaps one of the best of your insights (amongst many!) was the desire to establish reality, but not having the skills to do it. So they take some weird mishmash of stuff they may have read or picked up on and turn it into a belief/system, and then of course have to resist any challenges to it, and overcome any internal (or external) inconsistencies or illogic. They do get quite angry when challenged ('triggers'), and won't answer direct questions, like I said.
And yes, it is tragic. I do think the intensive bombardment of everyone (including 'conspiracy theorists' as well as anyone who just wants to know what's going on) with cognitive dissonance has become a significantly increasing tactic, and relatively recently too (despite the high-speed internet having been around for quite some time now). I also think this 'false events' narrative has a lot to do with it, and it's interesting how that specifically targets critical thinkers, so to speak. It's quite worrying, actually.
Perhaps we could see the three stooges (or however many there really are - I think you may be right about three) as victims of that.
[I'll read your other reply now]
🙄😂🤣😁
Whatever Karen.
And that is the best you can do ProLie?
Pathetic as usual.
There is no point to your existence anymore here (or anywhere!😂) is there.
You lost quite spectacularly before, including the purging of 6 weeks of your feeble work, for being a criminal stalker. then you returned & instantly made an embarrassment of yourself, had several public mental breakdowns, had to go on holiday and then became almost inarticulate with anal exasperation and rage. Now you are dedicated to doing the same thing for 17 more months you boast, while bouncing about on your laptop & leaking all over your lunch.
What a masochistically pathetic, miserable no-life piece of excrement you are, sloshing about in your own sewer of LIMBO hell.
And why do you imagine we would even consider carrying on with you for even one more comment ?
🙄😂🤣😂
tROT ON some more for everyone's amusement here. I notice only EverLyin has bothered supporting you a few times out of your 1,000+ comments , no one else gives a shit because you've saturation this place in so much of it already.
ProLie you are in some nightmare thinking it is still a dream.
You are so lost that you can now never return.
How many team members have you lost since this began. How many holidays have you had to take in last few weeks? The insults you use have no substance while you have less substance by the hour. Was it really worth it ? Why are you not baiting HIBBERT instead of people who tried to originally help the worthless sell out RDHall, is it because you are really working for HIBBERT all along?
tROT ON inside & out,
this is you only love & reason to live now.
I saw The Ipcress File it must've been at least 20-30 years ago now, but I really did enjoy it. Possibly time to re-watch it now you reminded me of it. Interesting that came out (like the Prisoner) during the classic MK-Ultra time. I would imagine that's a very different type of mind control to the Monarch idea of starting with very young children and inducing MPD. I can certainly accept the idea that specifically selected children (e.g. offspring of the controllers) are subjected to (possibly simulated, with modern technology) trauma for a short period (say, 6-18 months) in order to induce a few dozen alters (or 33, perhaps), each of which is then very carefully given specific talents, so to speak. I think that's certainly feasible as well as psychologically realistic (there's a lot of this in my Katrina story, for fear of spoilers).
The older the subject/victim, though, the more difficult it is to get them to dissociate. So instead, as you suggest, with adults they'd go for the induced PTSD option. Psychic driving and learned helplessness etc.
My theory about how to do it on a collective population is to realise that each member of the population is still an individual and perceives things as an individual (especially following a neoliberal atomisation of society inducing helplessness). Because it's the same specific trauma, however, the required 'reinforcement' (on the neuronal level) simply comes from each individual in the group observing each other and even just talking with each other. But they all respond in the same way, so it only 'looks' like 'mass' brainwashing. Plus of course humans are social creatures, so they need to feel part of a group, and that applies equally to sharing the same opinions and feelings.
I also think that's a good insight about the alt media. It follows on from the cognitive infiltration strategy. Given that the genuine 'resistance' is going to come from alternative types (who display more critical thinking and may even be more psychologically robust), it's clear that group needs to be specially targeted. So they establish alt media sites and fake 'conspiracy theorist' influencers and spread 'harmful misinformation' (lol). Which is why a lot of the alt has become disturbingly fascist. It's one of the things I admire about Iain tbh - he's clearly rejected that stuff. In fact, that may be one method of distinguishing a genuine person from a spook - a genuine would not sow discord and right-wing stuff.
So I think you may be right about the blubby bee in the bonnet - this is one of the real problems now - not immediately knowing which ones to trust until after having listened to them for a while. I myself have not been immune to thinking someone was worth listening to to begin with, and it took me a fair while to understand/realise all of this. Probably because I started thinking about all these things before the cognitive infiltration really got going, so this problem didn't really exist then. And it must be virtually impossible for 'new arrivals' to have even the slightest clue what or who to believe. To call it a minefield is an understatement.
Maybe that's another requirement - a list of bona fides.
So yes, I do think this is a targeted and systematic operation. I certainly haven't watched any mainstream 'news' for at least more than a decade now, or any TV for that matter. The most I'll do is watch a movie online at entirely my own discretion. Similarly I haven't really watched any alt media stuff either. It is quite amazing and how refreshing/clean one's mind can be by only choosing to read stuff instead of watch. Then there's the period of respites which greatly help...
🙄😂🤣😂
ProLie- it was mentioned that pt2 would be the following week. Yet again you show what a compulsive liar and feeble baiter you are.
As for copy & paste games- you have proven to be the most fanatical practitioner of that. So either shut up, fuck off, or get a grip- oh, sorry, I forgot ; it's TOO LATE for any of that. You are set in your desperate channel of self destruction, and nothing can prevent it from occurring now.
tROT ON, inside & out, as is your compulsion & only respite.