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Firstly, thank you for reminding me about the different version of the "infamous" San Carlo photo. I have decided to update the post to include some brief discussion of it as it is, at least, interesting.

However, I am not convinced by the arguments it was photo-shopped or, even if it was, that this is particularly relevant. Clearly, Hibbert is being deceptive merely by trying to assert it "proves" they were there. Which obviously it doesn't.

Which brings me to your utterly ludicrous controlled opposition accusation.

Given everything we have discussed over the last 9 articles your contention is that both Richard D Hall and I are "controlled opposition" because I don't find the so-called evidence of image manipulation, which you find compelling, convincing. therefore, I have not included it in this series for some deceptive purpose.

What is that purpose do you imagine?

As you suggest I have "phuked up," presumably nothing I have reported is believable, and I will lose subs (which I already have as a result of posting this series). That's your assessment is it?

Can I just ask how this controlled opposition thing you allege is supposed to work?

Richard D. Hall has fiercely challenged the official Manchester Arena narrative. He has presented a considerable body of evidence, been attacked by the legacy media, taken to court and suffered hardship but remains firm in his analysis.

Because he is practically alone in standing up for the evidence that shows Manchester was a hoax, I have done all that I can to support him, taken significant time out of my better paid work to do it and lost subs as a result. Which, I have to say, is what I expected.

But you suggest, that he, and now I, are doing all this because we are somehow trying to promote the official narrative by trying to demonstrate it is false. How does that work then?

From what you've written, you have come to this strange conclusion because I don't find some of the evidence reported about the image convincing and have chosen not to report it.

Have I summed up your position correctly?

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As far as I can tell, you most definitely have.

Do you really need subscribers like that, Iain?

I've been wondering if you'd respond to such silly insinuations. I have mixed feelings about the fact you did: I can understand why you'd want to defend your position, but at the same time I think it's unlikely to make much of an impression on those who seem to enjoy throwing mud grenades whilst hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.

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You're probably right. Perhaps it was rash.

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If it's any consolation I engaged with them too a while back. In my defence I was kind of provoking them into leaving long rambling answers that I could then analyse (the irony of that being a kind of statement analysis now becomes apparent).

Originally I thought there were three of them, which is why I nicknamed them the three stooges (ram, dub, and the other one is 'trollhunter'). It now appears there's another one, 'from another world'. So 4 stooges.

I've got a few theories now about them. First, obviously they are a gang, which suggests tag-team stuff. Second, it's just one person with multiple accounts. Third, it's a very sophisticated AI (I've had my suspicions about AI for a while now - I had a few convos with ChatGPT a while back and (lol, more statement analysis) the answers were sometimes contradictory, mainly in terms of what must've been the 'temporary memory file' (established for each conversation, then, according to ChatGPT, wiped 'for privacy reasons' - I don't believe that for a moment - suggesting the 'real' AI learning computer is much, much deeper, and ChatGPT is just the interface/data gathering subroutine). This means the cabal's AI capabilities are much, much greater than they want people to know (I can well believe that).

Here, however, is a fourth option, which is a little discomforting to put it mildly. Essentially option four is that it is one person, but they have MPD (multiple personality disorder). It was their mention in these comments about child abuse and the birth certificates of the alleged victims that sparked (or triggered) off this idea (i.e. the child victims of Manchester are part of the Network (see IGSP studies)), and faking their deaths means 'no one will ever know'. Likewise, given the prevalence of snuff movies in the Network, they may have already been killed (especially at the adolescent age, when they are no longer 'children'). In fact, this idea of 'real life snuff movies' for the purposes of 'terrorist attacks' shouldn't be dismissed - that is something that really did only just occur to me. What has occurred to me before, though, is the possible use of Monarch victims to carry out attacks (American high school shootings, for example). I have no idea whether this would be relevant to Manchester though - all the evidence you have presented suggests it never happened so is a different category of event. Unless both the official narrative and the fake narrative are both fabricated, and something 'real' did happen, but all the evidence and footage for it has been removed and relocated for 'someone's benefit'. I really don't like to even contemplate that.

We know that serious and sustained abuse leads to MPD. Likewise, they make clear allusions to Monarch mind control details (I mean real details which you'd have to know a hell of a lot about to mention). Likewise, the 'sudden outbursts' of seriously deranged language and massively aggressive self-defensive reaction. Furthermore, as soon as the 'trigger' happens, they start repeatedly 'projecting', almost as if it's a kind of triggered subroutine, or 'program' (in the MK sense). And they simply don't stop until the person they are talking to no longer replies. So when they accuse others of being trolls, that's what they are doing.

Notice also the fixation on just one topic (in this case, the photos). From a 'cognitive infiltration' perspective this is just obvious misdirection, but when you combine it with the intense psychology, it becomes something else. A rational disinformation agent would simply draw you in to ever greater analysis, but they would not combine it with insults, because that defeats the purpose of a misdirection intended to keep someone occupied. It's obvious in this case after all that it is irrelevant whether the restaurant photos were faked - it's about them possibly not being at the Arena. Photos being faked wouldn't change that.

Given that psychologically they kind of fit the profile of a Monarch victim, I really am leaning towards my option four, because if it was any of the three other options, by simply hurling insults they would be defeating the purpose of those options. It is interesting, however, that they chose this particular episode to launch into their attack. This suggests the content of this episode is the one that worries them the most. Either as cognitive infiltrators (state-affiliated subversives) or for some psychological trigger reason.

Obviously, there is an option five which is simply that they are extremely nasty trolls. There are people like that in the world, after all.

Anyhow - in the end, I just blocked all four of them. If you do opt for 'engagement', I would highly recommend stopping after maximum two replies/comments.

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😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂

Great stuff EverLyin' !

What a gem.....possibly your best piece of TRANSFERENCE FICTION yet !

An aside to those who aren't familiar with Everlyin' -

She claims to be 'a SPY from an utopian alternative world' where she is the 'alter' of someone called KAREN .. as in the lame modern insult of 'a karen'.

She admits she is an MPD SPY in her profile and endlessly rambling , narcistic work.

....she writes the most feeble ,semi-autobiographical stories . She has no awareness of the field of speculative fiction/SciFi - built on the short story form- and has 6 page introductions for a 4 page story saying how rare 4 page stories are .Th story is then written as a film script (tho not in any standard/accepted format!) , and consists of 3 pages of un-expressive ,trite expositional dialogue......my calculations may be off by a page or two -I cant be bothered to check.

She is incredibly un-credible.

She certainly doesnt need provoking into leaving long rambling answers, full of obvious misdirection, 🙄😂

Evade the content we give then play the same old tired troll tactics and accusations.

Does it seem like some serious lack of humour with these time-vampire 'baiters' has crippled their sensibilities ? They are all so uptight & easily triggered.

Of course TH and Serge and I are real people , tho Serge is a nickname. No troll ever writes like any of us, and certainly not my distinctive style,....which uncannily I noticed has had been copied and quoted without credit on some Hall-topic sites recently . ....Which I should certainly confront! 😂

It's funny you would imagine the 5 scenarios you do EverLyin', because when we were dealing with Original feeble FAWB we were using each others accounts to keep 'them' confused about who was writing, and we told him we were going to do it ! 😂🤣😂

Serge & me wrote most of TH's responses after the first few days, it should be obvious to any real writer. He'd said all he needed.

New FAWB is a mystery to all of us... it may well be a aberrant AI that mimicked the original 4B 'Doom Patrol' that we speculated had your clawed hand up its puppet-like backside .

Or some trixster, and comedian ?

I'm glad it appeared tho, it was hilarious...especially the bit about sticking up for Dick being 'bad-mouthed' ... like something out of a John Waters video (not the Irish political pundit!) .

Anyways, it seemed to have learnt fast, volt-faced on its programming, then has since fallen silent in contemplation, ennui ,exhaustion, pique ?

...., I may try and converse with it. It would likely to be more rewarding than wading through your tedious, psychotic old tripe....

Tho you are inadvertently very funny..in all the wrong ways.

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She really is off the rails !

Another OMEGA programmed mindfuck MKUltra victim,

they destroyed her 'stronghold' but not the 'strongman' it seems.

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no humour.

Iain seems really uptight, even falling for everLyin's utter transference crud.

This place is a mess- lets get out of here Sis, its a no hope , old rope zone.

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Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!

Your outstanding contribution has made me feel completely disinfected!

As to which of your brilliantly elaborated options is the most likely, I freely confess I have no idea. But it's fair to assume you're in the right ballpark with at least one of them.

You know something? I've never been so creatively insulted in my entire life. If that's ChatGPT, it's damn good. Maybe, I'm a just a narcissist who craves any kind of attention, no matter how demented or puerile.

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You must be the cyborgs or brains in a tank to even think like that... it's brilliant.

Keep going about how Dub and me are the greatest evil to ever manifest on social media ! 😂😂😂

Next you'll try and convince yourselves that we are terminally stupid....''vocabulary-less '' as Original feeble 4B says .... and believe in a donut shaped planet!

Crack ON!

as you seem to be cracking on!

.....on crack of course.

🦇💩🤡👻's

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You are very welcome!

With your last sentence, did you mean they are a narcissist who craves any kind of attention no matter how demented or puerile? Because I can't see that description applying to you!

But yeah, I reckon at least one of my options must be the correct one. Kind of Holmesian thinking, you know.

Anyhow, like I said, I just ended up blocking them. It's not worth it. If you keep engaging they will feel they've 'caught' you - they never acknowledge any logical/rational point you make, they simply keep repeating their point and ordering you to respond (even if you clearly have responded).

I do think the AI possibility deserves a real in-depth study, though. By now it should be much better than ChatGPT. ChatGPT often makes really dumb continuity errors. You then point that out to it and it says 'yes, you're right, I should've said...' and then redoes the calculation. So on the one hand it displays a high level of computational ability, but on the other, it's got basic memory problems. I'm not buying it.

Anyway - I am so glad you are feeling disinfected. It is a lovely feeling...

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Oh the lies spill out like crap from a prolapse backside with you EverLyin' or Francis , or another poseur shill in some team of dog-dicked arseholes....

Yet , it is so funny to see - that I have to encourage you with this sub-routine of fantasy you are lost in (more like another cul-de-sac of indulgence and denial!)

You claim in hysteria and pure mania; ''They never acknowledge any logical/rational point you make,''

- and that is simply a provable lie. It was YOU who evaded all technological queries..... Thinks Venus is habitable,.... yet knows nothing of the atmpspheric temperatures of Earth....knows nothing of PLASMA or Toroidal dynamics,.....laughed at the Rosicrucian theory of creation (unaware that is what it was) as utter rubbish,...

and claims to have esoteric knowledge and wisdom, yet has never heard of ARGOTH, nor the Green Language- the language of diplomats... and claims the 22 card of Tarot is the FOOL, missing the entire mechanics and focus of COLEL in Gematria! What a clown 😂🤣😂

Keep going tho- lets see how much time and space you can feast on here with your inane junk......🙄😂

tROT ON!

as you are.

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Hey Sis, do you know 'you are me, and I am you, and we are everyone including everlyn/karen and Iain - it is ALL ONE and we are all each other in everlyns fractured mind!

She thinks you are a MKULTRA controller because you know some jargon (probably derived from Apocalypse Culture ed by adam parfrey, Fritz Springmisers work, CIA declassified files (2Gs worth available on line) Ikes mates Stewart Swerdlow and Cathy O’Brien.... she missed you also mentioned the MKUltra magazine Phillipa (?) wrote for.

No, wait a minute she thinks you are a MKU victim like she is instead.

while she is clearly damaged and deluded, and you are the opposite !

iain even liked her comment!

What a sight for sore eyes.

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They are actually called CYBORGS in MKUltra programming sometimes .

EverLyin' calls herself an ALPHA (regualr control programme) but her Alter Karen is a BETA (the Kittens/sex slave persona) and then there is GUY, possible the 'strawman' or 'strongman' ?

She has not been properly 'cleared' and still has the STRONGMAN personas built up within her , that is why she appears so incredibly FLAKEY .

To show what desperate & devious shits this lot are in a later comment on Iains OCCULT essay EverLyin' & ProLie discuss where you got the MKULTRA knowledge from, ignore what you wrote here and make up all sort of shit instead.

The fact that Davis is siding with a pair of shill/plants here after all the help you've given him really does show beyond any doubt whatsoever what a two faced poseur he is.

Beneath the veneer is a bitter , envious masochist gagging to have a go at being a petty sadist ?

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I was jokingly suggesting that perhaps I'm a narcissist. I hope I'm not, but maybe we can't consider ourselves the best judge in these matters.

Thanks again and I look forward to reading your further contributions.

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You are 'just a narcissist who craves any kind of attention, no matter how demented or puerile.'

You are also a masochist that is yearning to be the petty sadist.

🙄😂🤣😂

Keep going, you will probably break your back trying to feltch yourself to sleep .

Now,

tROT ON!

''Thanatos guides , while Kali rides''

...as the great saying goes.

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guilty and overcompensating more like.

Never mind, your work usually has some useful element in it that supersedes the contents initial focus, and that is what is important.

The fact you can't admit to dishonesty is something for your own conscious to deal with. 😉😊

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The other psychological tell is the attention-seeking, which to me seems like a cry for help. The fact they are fixated on the photo, and want to know what happened to the children likewise.

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I certainly am not , and do not ..... , The PHOTO (sic) was featured in Iains essay you rancid old tw*t..... What a twisty piece of lying crap you are.

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What next ?

Another essay where you mention yourself 322 times in 81 lines ?

tROT ON EverLyin'

...its all you seem to do.

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We're all human.

I think.

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pathetic

useless impression grot of groot.

You come across as another decrepit Francis Leeder or Evelyin' Pigswick in your prose.

Maybe your pose of Le Guin's magic is also overcompensation for a lack of real character, or are you a fiction for children as well?

Next shill-bot !

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Grot of Groot seems to be also be PROLAPSE.

Certainly the same EverLyin' team .

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Reading these comments doesn't make you appear a very honest , sincere of reasonable person Grot Of Groot. In fact you seem to be the same pathetic person or team as PROLAPSE.

The fact that Iain is also so ungrateful and disrespectful implies he is jealous as well.

Neither of you seem adapt at any genuine depth of thought on this , while busy being discourteous to those that have.

It looks just like any other controlled troll/shill espionage game here.

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Not at all.

Very disappointing.

Silly even.

You know you slipped up, and just proved it.

So, now the inevitable troll deluge is even more pathetic than last time, 'lets evade important CONTENT and resonance' yet again.🙄

Tho EverLyin' has provided her best work so far from it, a wonderfully deranged and funny mini epic... look at her go! Both of her !

😂🤣😂

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Not as silly as his OCCULT essay !

What a stinker that is.

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Poor show Iain !

you even threw in a crass strawman there ! 😂🤣😂

Lets evade ALL the points Ramona mentioned that you and others missed, and over compensate with an attack instead.

She already answered your tantrum on this-

''now I'm THINKING he's either somehow compromised or BEING DISHONEST for some reason...

and the best reason that comes to mind is that he wants his readers to seriously believe the CASE IS REAL, when it is ACTUALLY a SHOW /Spectacle , an insult to the general public, and con upon subscribers of all the sites supporting Hall.''

Everyone and their dog should have realized what a scammy hoax the Manckey 'Smoke without fire 'event was. SO that was a grade convolution you just tried!

So, she considers the court case THEATER, as do I now, and the evasion of the two images (which is just as weird than the two images themselves!) is an act only compromise or dishonesty would facilitate. Your job here (admittedly possibly unknowingly) is to encourage people to consider it REAL, rather than another staged propaganda act.

Hall is a fishy character (too long to repeat here) , yet if the case is real he still deserves support as he is the SCAPEGOAT for far bigger issues effecting everyone, even if HALL is a knowing or unknowing patsy. Yet, if he is 'playing along' then that should certainly be considered ? Personally, I have always thought he was controlled ops, for many reasons, yet he is one of the more 'interesting ones' so worth listening to occasionally, Ramona has seen most of his work, and thinks likewise.

Simply, consider his catch-phrase- how stupid is it?! 😂🤣😂

Of course its a riff on the ancient 'Alchemical/Mysticall' term that was plagiarized, and corrupted somewhat by Crowley into ''Believe Nothing- Believe Everything ''.

Don't tell David Scott he would have an embolism over it.

How can this case be proven to be real ? Are there instances when fake laws have been constructed by 'the octopus' to hoodwink the public. Do you really think Alex Jones court case is still genuine for example?

Has RD Halls endless talks on UFOs and Secret Space programs convinced you he is defiantly not some distraction shill, now tasked with a bigger role- after hijacking UK Critical Thinkers work ? Does his choice of guests not raise your antenna at all ?

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I agree the case is theatre but that doesn't mean Hall won't be punished as a result. Hall has in no way contributed to that theatre. He is subject to it.

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he facilitated it .

Could anyone else have released similar work with the same initial impunity ? It may wel be a 'media/spectacle' tactical decision to incorporate Hall, and has possible great Irony when the bigger picture of this CHILD ABUSE matter is unveiled- you should look at the children BIRTH CERTIFICATES rather than the DODs , there are some peculiar similarities. Also, last time I checked there are about 30% of the death certificates that are not available.

The timing for the decision to prosecute seems tied to the ConVD scam, after Hall ceased doing regular work. The suggestion by Ramona is that this is his retirement game. How much has been donated to his farcical (in all senses of the term) legal appeal ?

Why isnt he prosecuting the BBC, in likewise manner for harassment , for example ? Where are his allies formed over the years.

You are acting in a suspicious manner on this Iain, it appears that you , like MisDisinfo MerdeAriana Spring cant take any criticism ?

Maybe your confidants and advisors are maneuvering you into some confrontational cul-de-sac on this? Or maybe an elitist streak is polluting your empathy?

After all the support and encouragement, useful comments and promotion of your work we've (RAM & me) have done you seem utterly ungrateful , and prefer to slurp with the sycophants and morally uptight censors ?!

Maybe you don't want subscribers such as us?

After this series we will leave your comments for the intel pit it keeps verging on.

Good Luck, and may you get the audience you deserve. 🙄😂

Look out, Spangle and his chums may return to roost.

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oh, lets ignore all that- its not convenient to discuss !

This page has some desperate evasion strategies on the go.

Pighooey (what a give-away name for controlled ops !- who has such BAD TASTE ?) is now trying to claim Gematria is just crud to make commentators look idiotic. Where do they get these inane arseholes, brothels, pet shops , mental hospitals or the sewers?

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Do you really think Alex Jones has paid a dollar in any fine ?

This is the same scam.

It is very doubtful that any laws will change , just the THREAT will be bolstered by people like yourself to dissuade and intimidate open debate and research.

If you think the case more deeply then it has no teeth and no-legs to stand on.

Common Law has all the answers to Halls evasion on this matter. If he had the right friends he would make Hibbert look a laughing stock, and he could also couter sue the BBC for far more than Hibbert is claiming from him, because if Hibbert has a claim that can get this far , so does Hall against his 'harassers'.

You seem very eager to evade a lot of obvious things on this, including how important that double image really is. The over-reaction here is rather disturbing , as is your attitude towards my Kin, who havwe spent a lot of time and energy supporting and aiding you in the past.

Is it any wonder they have lost all faith in your integrity ion this, especially as you encourage the glaringly psychotic TROLLFOBTIMEVAMPIRE/PROLAPSE TEAM to harass them for two months now.

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