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The same applies to the whole Reiner Fulmich situation. I don’t really care if he is innocent or guilty in terms that he helped me get through a difficult period without feeling insane. Although, it’s very sad if an innocent person is sent to prison and I don’t doubt the present German justice system is capable of such an atrocity.
Thank you, Iain, for such a measured, well-considered and cool-headed response to the feverishly overheated situation UK Column uncomfortably finds itself in. And thank you for bringing some calm perspective and reason to the current, overwrought discussions. Personally, as a viewer of UKC (since 2015) and a Life Member (since 2021), I feel thoroughly exhausted by all the shouting and counter-shouting. Unfortunately, though, I don't think we've heard the end of it -- many of us are watching this space with interest...
Well said Chrissie. Like you, a long-time UKC viewer and life-time member. Yes, watching with interest but not impressed by what I'm reading - definitely not a good look on their part.
Thank you for publishing this Iain and making your contribution to this conundrum.
I also take onboard any critique directed at me as I highly respect you and your work.
With your permission, I'd like to link to this piece from the show notes for the episode in question.
Regarding the allegations that I am doing this on behalf of the Israeli military or intelligence service, these were started by Vanessa Beeley after she published this AI generated summary under the 'explosive' headline (which she added): "Links to Israel"
This was obvious ad-hominem so I wasn't even planning to respond but after Akita Media (trading as UK Column) director and co-founder Mike Robinson kept pushing that line (https://x.com/mikeukc/status/2060836250609696994), I was forced to respond:
Any criticisms I made of your work I also make of mine, I shared your video Michael. This instigated an emotive attack on me. Personally Michael, I think if anyone attacks the person and not the evidence there is a high chance they are either deceptive or propagandists.
I also watched today the UKC broadcast and noted (with some amazement I must admit) that the entire segment was literally about me and my alleged links to Hasbara and even unit 8200's participation in it (despite my previous public statements).
Nothing from the actual interview or even UKC's own rebuttal was mentioned. Not even in passing.
This appears to be prima facie a breach of their own code of conduct as stated on their website:
"While there is no requirement for UK Column contributors to present a so-called ‘balanced’ view, care must be taken not to misrepresent or distort the facts and there must be a clearly identified differentiation between statements of fact and opinion."
My next step is to contact UKC and request they abide by the following two clauses in their own code of conduct:
"Any significant inaccuracy must be corrected at the earliest opportunity, with the same prominence given to the original report."
And
"A right of reply to any significant inaccuracy should always be given when a reasonable request has been received"
I am so bored with this 'linked to Israel' accusation, hurled at anyone who disagrees with anyone else. Just in case anyone disagrees with me, I was is Israel on holiday in 2016 (tour of the Holy Lands) when peace had broken out, and loved it. If that makes me a Mossad spy or part of the IDF, then so be it.
You make some good points and raise some valid concerns. Having been a member of UKC for many years it saddens me. My natural instincts are one should never become lazy and just accept what anyone says without a healthy dose of caution and critical thinking. I hope those who have a good amount of knowledge are able to spot the shill bits of information, case in point here are your observations regarding the pushing of 15 minute city’s as a good thing. Inevitably when a platform or political party becomes too big it will become a target for those banking class technocrats who have a vested interest in the status quo. More power to you Iain. You call it how it is.
Does it occur to anyone that support for 15 min cities, or any ideas put forward to address climate and environmental issues, even ones that have already been largely dismissed as unworkable, being a sign of enemy infiltration might be an error in the first place?
Who might benefit from the belief that addressing the impacts of the unrestricted profits of the oil and animal ag industries on pollution and climate is part of a 'globalist' conspiracy?
Chrono-urbanism, the basis of the 15-minute city idea, suggesting that community needs can be met withing a 15 minute walk of cycle, isn't a bad or a new idea. Garden cities were designed around chrono-urbanism.
15-minute cities add digital surveillance and behvioural control to chrono-urbanism. They are designed as restrictive, though pleasant they may be touted to be. More than that, they are designed to force their captives to comply with global governance, absent their consent, specifically SDG 11.
If you are looking for a conspiracy that benefits Big Oil and Big Pharma I suggest you look at Sustainable Development.
I agree, that we need to protect the environment, reduce pollution, especially plastic waste and so on. But SDG's certainly are not the way to do it in my view.
The other very positive aspect of 15-minute zones is that it will help people to relearn/recover what it means to be part of a community. And ultimately, it's communities which will be the real, meaningful resistance. Any encroachment by the dystopians on communities which exceeds a limit of interference will result in the entire community rebelling.
I know this because personally I live in a pastoral French village with about 250 inhabitants. Most of the time everyone is happily compliant, but if they tried to take away all our gardens and our chickens and, well, our independence, quite frankly, then the collective attitude would change in an instant. So they have to be really careful.
Only trouble is- there’s no such thing as the dystopians wanting to take away ‘your’ chickens! That is a lie put about by the chicken industry to smear any attempt to address the climate crisis and damage their profits (NB this also applies to the whole of the big oil and animal ag industry).
Everyone in health freedom seems to have fallen for it. It’s the US interests who are destroying the world with their attempt to maintain hegemony and who haveo created this ‘globalist/Zionazis’ schtick.
yes, they want total control over the food supply, hence lots of fake bird flu scares and mass culling of animals. or do you still believe in viruses causing disease as well as a fake climate crisis that needs to be addressed.
The large energy (oil and gas) companies profit from climate change alarmism. Most of the big majors sell significant amounts of gas/LNG. Carbon taxes shift consumption away from coal and heavy oil dominated by regional producers and towards gas which has much much higher barriers to entry, particularly liquefied natural gas (LNG).
Yes, the US interests in oil and gas want to get the world dependent, and therefore more politically compliant, on LNG shipped across the ocean at great cost. They’ve already done that to Europe by cutting them off from gas from Russia. A shift to LNG has nothing to do with being ‘green’, any reduction in co2 emissions is off-set by methane production.
They’re also trying to cut China off from cheap crude oil to limit her economic rise. They are already planning to see LNG to Asia along roots with ‘no choke holds’- that’s what the war against Iran is all about.
These energy companies have already smeared renewables that would have offered autonomy and energy independence from these US interests. Thus they profit from propaganda about climate ‘alarmism’.
A shift towards LNG has everything to do with US interests wanting to maintain hegemony and nothing to do with climate ‘alarmism’.
I cancelled my UKC subscription after they failed to give Richard D Hall's court case fiasco due coverage. Yes, they will hit the target on many issues but I have concerns as to wether they are part of the controlled opposition. It is all too easy to feel satisfied that you have found the mainstream narrative alternative and not continue to rigorously question this.
If my memory serves me correctly Hall was disappointed with the first article and a second article followed. ‘thanks’ is that Hall thanking you for the second article?
i'm really not sure tbh - can you provide links to anything he's said on our coverage (which nobody else did until recently with Iain Davis and David A. Hughes).
he said thanks for the generous donation to his court costs.
A theme coming out of the Ginsberg interview was that one of the UKC presenters may be an intelligence asset, indicated by his background and influence on narrative control. It's hard not to believe that any alternative media organisation larger than one person won't be targeted by the intelligence agencies, if not set up by them.
Sure, but that doesn't invalidate my point. I've picked up lots of info and ideas from UKC over the years. I've long suspected as well that some elements of the UKC are compromised, so it's useful to 1. find out if that is the case, and 2. if that compromising aspect is getting worse, in what direction, and driven by which people.
Great article Iain, well worth a 25 pound donation. I too noticed the change with the addition of Jerm Warfare who often make unsubstantiated claims which tarnishes UKC’s reputation IMO.
What’s wrong with that? The guest agreed to come onto my show and linking to the guest’s website is the respectful thing to do. I see no issue with that.
The concern is that "UKC broadcasts multipolar global governance propaganda". There is also an apparent double standard in the way that the UK vs BRICs (especially Chinese) government polices are treated.
Another very specific example. In response to my UKC forum discussion on Vladimir Putin, Mike said:
"The truth is that Russian intelligence, themselves operating in Syria, had zero understanding of what the White Helmets were. It took years, literally, of journalistic exposure, including numerous appearances on RT, before the Russians even began to take notice.
Until I witnessed this situation, I would have made the same assumptions you have. Truth is, we can't assume Russian intelligence 'must have known' anything [regarding Covid]. There's plenty that goes right over their heads."
So Mike is arguing that ex-KGB officials (now FSB) - some of the most ruthless cynical, deceptive and cunning intelligence operatives in human history - couldn't work out that covid might be a scam (or the White Helmets). This is beyond incredulity. So we are supposed to believe that Russian and China are somehow victims in the global conspiracy that was covid-19, and this is the UKC editorial position, it seems.
I guess you work for free? Taking comp trips to China and then spouting their propaganda is not a good look. Your experience there is a clear contradiction to mine. It’s hard to believe there’s not an agenda at play.
What Chinese propaganda did I spout? You made the claim, so expect some specifics from you. If you can’t give specifics, then you’re a lazy hack like the rest of them, and deserve to be ignored.
Of course. We all need money. It’s what we do with that money that matters. I don’t publish gutter journalism. My recent episodes about 9/11, home births, viruses, the history of the Roman Empire, the Artemis hoax, and others, are not gutter journalism. Unless you believe the mainstream narratives, that is.
It's not just what we do with the money that matters. It's also where (or who) it comes from, what we have to do to earn it and how that impacts others. "You cannot serve two masters." And readers/listeners/viewers have the right to know if a member of the "independent" media is actually independent - as in, serving them - or whether they answer first to another master: their paymaster.
Hear, hear! Thank you for this Iain. I follow David Hughes closely and I find his work to be impeccably evidenced, regardless of what he's writing about. Having read David's pieces on this whole controversy, it seems rather glaringly obvious that Jahnke is extremely dodgy and absolutely not to be trusted.
Over the years, I've read & heard a great deal of criticism of Vanessa Beeley, so a red flag went up when I came across her name in your piece. I have no idea whether or not it's true, but I've heard that she is an intelligence asset going back to Syria. I know she's blocked commenters who've called her out on her Syria reporting.
It's very difficult to know whom to trust or believe. The sources I closely follow - including yourself of course - include everyone at Max Blumenthal's The GrayZone, everyone at Ali Abunimah's Electronic Intifada, James Corbett, Sasha Latypova, Patrick Wood, David Hughes, Catherine Austin Fitts, Michel Chossudovsky, Jeremy Scahill's Drop Site News, Matthew Kennard, Mondoweiss, and Chris Hedges. I don't agree with them 100% of the time or on all issues but to the best of my ability I have ascertained that they are honest, trustworthy investigative journalists who possess integrity - a vanishing quality in this dystopia.
The challenge we all face now is that of being responsible and verifying our own sources of information. We cannot passively accept information from any source. We are responsible for finding and evaluating the truth ourselves.
I follow many different writers but none of them, (being human) can provide the whole truth. I always try to assess the accuracy of any and every statement.
Absolutely. With practice, you can more easily spot lying propaganda. Needless to say, the corporate media does nothing but lie. One must be very discerning with independent media sources. A good example is Glenn Diesen, the Norwegian academic; some of his podcasts are good & informative such as with Mohamed Sayed Marandi but then he damages his credibility interviewing people like Jeffrey Sachs and former US military shills. A good source to follow is the Independent Media Alliance (I think Iain has been on it) with Whitney Webb, Derrick Broze, James Corbett, Catherine Austin Fitts, Ryan Cristian (The Last American Vagabond) & Kit Knightley (Off-Guardian).
You're entirely correct: even the best are still human & subject to various influences. For example, I disagree with James Corbett about the moon landing being faked. I disagree with Chris Hedges who continues to fall for the fraudulent climate change psy-op. Take what resonates with you & leave the rest.
Yes. Not everyone who is still in thrall to a false source is consciously lying. We have an immense heritage of lies to unpick, and people are competent, and focus, on different areas.
I agree with you about Sachs. I think the problem is these commenters like Diesen have to maintain their content output for financial reasons and are not able to be discriminating on all their sources.
This is real gutter stuff. I have no idea about the veracity of any of this. I follow Sasha for her information on health fraud, the scamdemic and other related subjects. If true, this is very disturbing. In general, I don't engage with this kind of toxicity, it's very negative energy. I appreciate your providing the link.
You have to separate Sasha's writings in her area of competence (pharmaceutical law) from her opinions on unrelated issues where she can be unpredictable and maverick (like many non-conformers)
Also separate out her personal background and family issues. I think her daughter may have autism, but this is painful for Sasha to admit as she blames herself for giving the childhood vaccines that cause this.
Yes, Sasha has said a number of times that her daughter was vaccine injured. One cannot be blamed for ignorance. If I had known what I now know about vaccines, I would never have allowed my son to be injected. I attribute his allergy to seafood to vaccines.
These social media threads go on & on ad infinitum. I don't go on social media; I got off of Facebook over 6 years ago. I only read long-form journalism. Unbecoming is an excellent source.
I spend an inordinate amount of time reading extremely long articles from my inbox among the many individuals & outlets I subscribe to. I never miss the weekly Electronic Intifada livestream, watch all Max Blumenthal & Aaron Mate's livestreams on the Grayzone & virtually every episode of The Chris Hedges Report. I can't be bothered with the mindlessness of social media.
I have somehow missed it. But then again, I have not in particular followed her closely enough to examine her in detail. I dont Think I have ever before heard public criticism of her.
Talk to her about EMFs….. watch her call you every name under the sun. She abused me FOR DAYS for suggesting that she was wrong. I mean swearing, insulting and goading like a fishwife.
Sasha's work in her expertise area is outstanding and was a game changer.
But she can be confrontational and extreme as well. Most non-conformists can also be difficult. This does not detract from the immense importance of her contribution in Pharma Law and the jabs with Katherine Watt. People have to rise above their personal grouches with her.
Great to get your take on it Iain and I agree with your overall sentiment. Essentially anything steering us away from the obvious agenda for a global totalitarian NWO and trying to sell it in as a positive should be cast out into the pied piper pile.
I was immediately suspicious of UKC when they started taking trips to China and essentially trivialising technocracy and I haven’t listened to one of Karl’s reports since.
I lived in HK for over a year and nobody goes there on holiday for 3 weeks unless you’re there to do business. So again, that raises a suspicion for me.
As much as I’ve appreciated a lot of UKC’s work and been a member, they’ve had an air of the Together group more and more. Basically giving you the impression stuff is being done so you can relax without getting a lot done.
Losing Sandi Adams as well just lost them more credibility IMHO.
Far be it for me to interfere in any of your financial decisions, but I meant what I said in the first half of the article just as much as I did in the second. I hope UKC prospers, and I did not write the piece to discourage their supporters.
I appreciate the thought but I’d already decided before reading your article having watched the interview and read their rebuttal.
With Sandi now gone, their content doesn’t really offer me much of interest anymore, it’s more depressing than solution based and I’m way past that point.
I don’t trust them for China-maxing, I think it’s wholly disingenuous. And if Marcel Janhke’s involvement in TNT Radio, only for that to implode, is anything to go by then I don’t hold out a lot of hope for UKC.
They need to head off this shit, get rid of Janhke and stop pretending it’s all innocent.
No I was referencing Charles Malet’s alleged 3-week trip to Hong Kong that Debi mentioned in the interview. She said that he reported from there whilst on holiday which UKC have rebutted.
COVID is a great sign of whether a group is influenced.
It's ridiculous for Zha to promote lockdowns... If he was smart to hide the obvious connection, he should just not talk about it because it was a huge fraud.
We know that there was nothing new before the shots through statistics.
Years of life lost was basically zero before the shots because the average age of COVID deaths were around life expectancy.
The NYC and Bergamo death spikes in 2020 were falsified to promote fear. Here's a place that exposes that.
We see that there's tons of health freedom groups that still promote fear of bioweapons and some outlets that I used to follow are head strong in that lab leak bullshit false alternative.
But now I'm seeing a lot of people notice these contractions and sneaky omissions made by alt media.
It wasn't that way years ago.
It seems that as soon as they try to sell us a narrative like lab leak, that opens up people to look into things and see that some censored stories were seeded!
Thank you, Iain, for this "measured, well-considered and cool-headed response" to the recent kerfuffle. I put that in quotes, because as I was attempting to find the right words to express myself, I saw Chrissie Murray's comment and this is exactly what I wanted to say!
It is truly sad, that an outlet that I have admired and subscribed to for years, should be so resistant to recognizing and acknowledging how its actions wrt Marcel Jahnke's investment might compromise its integrity, or at the very least, give the appearance of having done so.
I was also a trifle astounded earlier by Patrick's coverage of the ICE incident in Minnesota, which I thought was very one-sided. I did point this out to him at the time, but I suppose my comment was just one of many and I did not receive any response.
While I sincerely hope that UKC heeds our concerns and takes appropriate restorative action, I suspect that things may already have gone too far for that to happen.
I have been a UKC member for several years and became concerned about their China centric coverage shift even before if was more widely discussed. David A Hughes has produced excellent work on Marcel Jahnke their new investor and also Reiner Fuellmich who was recently visited in prison by UKC. He has taken criticism from Jerm Warfare as well. I trusted the reports of Debbi Evans and Sandi Adams while they were at UKC, so probably no smoke without fire there? I probably won’t renew my membership as it does seem that the UKC independence has been compromised.
When there is successful aligning around truth, a key tactic is to sew discord within the movement.
It’s not a MIGHT happen, but a WILL happen - just matter of when & by whom.
Especially the case with fire towards long-standing researchers who have proven their integrity over decades, or those that put out extremely powerful content.
So when I see friendly fire, its alarm bells for “Here it comes!” & I watch the situation or person closely for further clues.
I recall writing a response closely tied to an article by Ginsburg, which made me suspicious of him. This was about >3mo ago. I’m not surprised he’s now embroiled as a possible chaos agent.
Similarly for Hughes.
In this response I wrote about him there is a link to an excellent article by Arkmedic, Covid maestro, showing how it went down in Covid. The big divide was across No-Virus. If u have time read my response on Hughes, otherwise jump straight to the Arkmedic article link:
Arkmedic shows how the game is played & how it affected the covid movement & continues to do so.
Alison McDowell aired video content of researcher at Silicone Valley showing how to socially engineer tension between “Alice” & “Bob” (common names to denote theory explanations, including blockchain). This is a science & this will be used in narrative warfare.
Friendly fire - discord in the truth seeking movement - is an alarm bell to scrutinise further interactions for possible chaos creating outcomes.
Thank you for your honesty showing your own small mistake in the matter. It goes far towards showing your true integrity & goodwill.
I am glad Anne. I am really not trying to dissuade anyone from supporting UKC. What really concerns me about this debacle is that perfectly reasonable and legitimate questions, criticisms and concerns have devolved into a mass, virtual brawl.
We can't do this, in my view, and expect people to stay engaged.
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The same applies to the whole Reiner Fulmich situation. I don’t really care if he is innocent or guilty in terms that he helped me get through a difficult period without feeling insane. Although, it’s very sad if an innocent person is sent to prison and I don’t doubt the present German justice system is capable of such an atrocity.
Thank you, Iain, for such a measured, well-considered and cool-headed response to the feverishly overheated situation UK Column uncomfortably finds itself in. And thank you for bringing some calm perspective and reason to the current, overwrought discussions. Personally, as a viewer of UKC (since 2015) and a Life Member (since 2021), I feel thoroughly exhausted by all the shouting and counter-shouting. Unfortunately, though, I don't think we've heard the end of it -- many of us are watching this space with interest...
Well said Chrissie. Like you, a long-time UKC viewer and life-time member. Yes, watching with interest but not impressed by what I'm reading - definitely not a good look on their part.
And thank you Iain for the post.
Thank you for publishing this Iain and making your contribution to this conundrum.
I also take onboard any critique directed at me as I highly respect you and your work.
With your permission, I'd like to link to this piece from the show notes for the episode in question.
Regarding the allegations that I am doing this on behalf of the Israeli military or intelligence service, these were started by Vanessa Beeley after she published this AI generated summary under the 'explosive' headline (which she added): "Links to Israel"
https://x.com/VanessaBeeley/status/2060325563655442531
This was obvious ad-hominem so I wasn't even planning to respond but after Akita Media (trading as UK Column) director and co-founder Mike Robinson kept pushing that line (https://x.com/mikeukc/status/2060836250609696994), I was forced to respond:
https://x.com/actionabletruth/status/2060837221260030089
This was then used by Vanessa as further confirmation that this whole thing was some kind of a 'Zionist plot'.
Neither her nor Mike Robinson have ever addressed the detailed investigation into Marcel Jahnke I published in the lead up to this interview:
https://actionabletruth.media/rising-tide-of-multi-polarity/
My work and commentary is all public and speaks for itself. I have no agenda except uncovering the TRUTH...and never will!
Any criticisms I made of your work I also make of mine, I shared your video Michael. This instigated an emotive attack on me. Personally Michael, I think if anyone attacks the person and not the evidence there is a high chance they are either deceptive or propagandists.
Sorry to hear that Iain
This behaviour is literally a core part of David Hughes's framework for identifying what he refers to as "camp 2".
https://substack.com/profile/1631143-michael-ginsburg/note/c-269012614
I also watched today the UKC broadcast and noted (with some amazement I must admit) that the entire segment was literally about me and my alleged links to Hasbara and even unit 8200's participation in it (despite my previous public statements).
Nothing from the actual interview or even UKC's own rebuttal was mentioned. Not even in passing.
This appears to be prima facie a breach of their own code of conduct as stated on their website:
https://www.ukcolumn.org/code-of-practice
Specifically:
"While there is no requirement for UK Column contributors to present a so-called ‘balanced’ view, care must be taken not to misrepresent or distort the facts and there must be a clearly identified differentiation between statements of fact and opinion."
My next step is to contact UKC and request they abide by the following two clauses in their own code of conduct:
"Any significant inaccuracy must be corrected at the earliest opportunity, with the same prominence given to the original report."
And
"A right of reply to any significant inaccuracy should always be given when a reasonable request has been received"
I am so bored with this 'linked to Israel' accusation, hurled at anyone who disagrees with anyone else. Just in case anyone disagrees with me, I was is Israel on holiday in 2016 (tour of the Holy Lands) when peace had broken out, and loved it. If that makes me a Mossad spy or part of the IDF, then so be it.
Maybe if you didn't have such an interesting surname they'd not have considered this particular accusation?
You make some good points and raise some valid concerns. Having been a member of UKC for many years it saddens me. My natural instincts are one should never become lazy and just accept what anyone says without a healthy dose of caution and critical thinking. I hope those who have a good amount of knowledge are able to spot the shill bits of information, case in point here are your observations regarding the pushing of 15 minute city’s as a good thing. Inevitably when a platform or political party becomes too big it will become a target for those banking class technocrats who have a vested interest in the status quo. More power to you Iain. You call it how it is.
Does it occur to anyone that support for 15 min cities, or any ideas put forward to address climate and environmental issues, even ones that have already been largely dismissed as unworkable, being a sign of enemy infiltration might be an error in the first place?
Who might benefit from the belief that addressing the impacts of the unrestricted profits of the oil and animal ag industries on pollution and climate is part of a 'globalist' conspiracy?
Chrono-urbanism, the basis of the 15-minute city idea, suggesting that community needs can be met withing a 15 minute walk of cycle, isn't a bad or a new idea. Garden cities were designed around chrono-urbanism.
15-minute cities add digital surveillance and behvioural control to chrono-urbanism. They are designed as restrictive, though pleasant they may be touted to be. More than that, they are designed to force their captives to comply with global governance, absent their consent, specifically SDG 11.
https://iaindavis.com/what-is-a-15-minute-city/
If you are looking for a conspiracy that benefits Big Oil and Big Pharma I suggest you look at Sustainable Development.
I agree, that we need to protect the environment, reduce pollution, especially plastic waste and so on. But SDG's certainly are not the way to do it in my view.
Superb point.
Thank you. I’m hoping the author of the post is going to address it.
Yes, very good point. See above.
The other very positive aspect of 15-minute zones is that it will help people to relearn/recover what it means to be part of a community. And ultimately, it's communities which will be the real, meaningful resistance. Any encroachment by the dystopians on communities which exceeds a limit of interference will result in the entire community rebelling.
I know this because personally I live in a pastoral French village with about 250 inhabitants. Most of the time everyone is happily compliant, but if they tried to take away all our gardens and our chickens and, well, our independence, quite frankly, then the collective attitude would change in an instant. So they have to be really careful.
Only trouble is- there’s no such thing as the dystopians wanting to take away ‘your’ chickens! That is a lie put about by the chicken industry to smear any attempt to address the climate crisis and damage their profits (NB this also applies to the whole of the big oil and animal ag industry).
Everyone in health freedom seems to have fallen for it. It’s the US interests who are destroying the world with their attempt to maintain hegemony and who haveo created this ‘globalist/Zionazis’ schtick.
They are laughing.
what climate crisis??
and why does @iain davis accept your premise?
yes, they want total control over the food supply, hence lots of fake bird flu scares and mass culling of animals. or do you still believe in viruses causing disease as well as a fake climate crisis that needs to be addressed.
is that you, Klaus?
The large energy (oil and gas) companies profit from climate change alarmism. Most of the big majors sell significant amounts of gas/LNG. Carbon taxes shift consumption away from coal and heavy oil dominated by regional producers and towards gas which has much much higher barriers to entry, particularly liquefied natural gas (LNG).
Yes, the US interests in oil and gas want to get the world dependent, and therefore more politically compliant, on LNG shipped across the ocean at great cost. They’ve already done that to Europe by cutting them off from gas from Russia. A shift to LNG has nothing to do with being ‘green’, any reduction in co2 emissions is off-set by methane production.
They’re also trying to cut China off from cheap crude oil to limit her economic rise. They are already planning to see LNG to Asia along roots with ‘no choke holds’- that’s what the war against Iran is all about.
These energy companies have already smeared renewables that would have offered autonomy and energy independence from these US interests. Thus they profit from propaganda about climate ‘alarmism’.
A shift towards LNG has everything to do with US interests wanting to maintain hegemony and nothing to do with climate ‘alarmism’.
I cancelled my UKC subscription after they failed to give Richard D Hall's court case fiasco due coverage. Yes, they will hit the target on many issues but I have concerns as to wether they are part of the controlled opposition. It is all too easy to feel satisfied that you have found the mainstream narrative alternative and not continue to rigorously question this.
I believe Hall was underwhelmed by the coverage in the Light.
It's not what he said; we covered it twice and also contributed towards his court case, so you're making that up unless you have a direct quote.
What did he say?
he said 'thanks'.
now where has he said we let him down like the UKC did?
because we didn't, and supported him al the way through it.
your evidence for denigrating us please?
If my memory serves me correctly Hall was disappointed with the first article and a second article followed. ‘thanks’ is that Hall thanking you for the second article?
i'm really not sure tbh - can you provide links to anything he's said on our coverage (which nobody else did until recently with Iain Davis and David A. Hughes).
he said thanks for the generous donation to his court costs.
If he was happy with your coverage. Thats the end of that.
A theme coming out of the Ginsberg interview was that one of the UKC presenters may be an intelligence asset, indicated by his background and influence on narrative control. It's hard not to believe that any alternative media organisation larger than one person won't be targeted by the intelligence agencies, if not set up by them.
Would that not also apply to Ginsberg? Logically speaking, I mean?
Sure, but that doesn't invalidate my point. I've picked up lots of info and ideas from UKC over the years. I've long suspected as well that some elements of the UKC are compromised, so it's useful to 1. find out if that is the case, and 2. if that compromising aspect is getting worse, in what direction, and driven by which people.
Well said, Iain, on a tiresome but not unusual topic for this day and age where contexts and the frequencies they exist are in need to be aired.
Any support for world governance must be outed for what it is, no matter from whom it derives; no one is above the truth while egos take a back seat.
Great article Iain, well worth a 25 pound donation. I too noticed the change with the addition of Jerm Warfare who often make unsubstantiated claims which tarnishes UKC’s reputation IMO.
What unsubstantiated claims have I made? This persistent vagueness increasingly confirms my suspicions that there is a coordinated attack going on.
I rarely see any show notes pointing out the sources of your claims, unlike other more credible presenters.
Then look it up. You have the internet. I always link to the guest’s website. What claims, IN PARTICULAR, do you take issue with?
There lies the problem, pointing to a guest website is hardly substantiation.
What’s wrong with that? The guest agreed to come onto my show and linking to the guest’s website is the respectful thing to do. I see no issue with that.
And this is why Iain wrote it. To get money. It’s not about truth or reality.
I actually thought Iain's article was well balanced and he articulated some genuine concerns that some of us have.
What concerns, exactly? Nobody is able to answer this question. It’s all vague and the zombies parrot the same thing over and over.
The concern is that "UKC broadcasts multipolar global governance propaganda". There is also an apparent double standard in the way that the UK vs BRICs (especially Chinese) government polices are treated.
So, give specific examples. Why will nobody give specifics? Because it's easier to make broad, vague claims so that it can't be refuted.
Another very specific example. In response to my UKC forum discussion on Vladimir Putin, Mike said:
"The truth is that Russian intelligence, themselves operating in Syria, had zero understanding of what the White Helmets were. It took years, literally, of journalistic exposure, including numerous appearances on RT, before the Russians even began to take notice.
Until I witnessed this situation, I would have made the same assumptions you have. Truth is, we can't assume Russian intelligence 'must have known' anything [regarding Covid]. There's plenty that goes right over their heads."
So Mike is arguing that ex-KGB officials (now FSB) - some of the most ruthless cynical, deceptive and cunning intelligence operatives in human history - couldn't work out that covid might be a scam (or the White Helmets). This is beyond incredulity. So we are supposed to believe that Russian and China are somehow victims in the global conspiracy that was covid-19, and this is the UKC editorial position, it seems.
The entire Silk and Steel podcast is uncritically pro-(pseudo)multipolarity and pro-China.
I guess you work for free? Taking comp trips to China and then spouting their propaganda is not a good look. Your experience there is a clear contradiction to mine. It’s hard to believe there’s not an agenda at play.
What Chinese propaganda did I spout? You made the claim, so expect some specifics from you. If you can’t give specifics, then you’re a lazy hack like the rest of them, and deserve to be ignored.
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As expected. Another hack who makes vague claims and provides no supporting evidence. You’re being pied piper’d like the others.
I have never said I don’t get paid. It is people like you who have an issue with ME getting paid.
I have no doubt you’re getting paid.
Of course. We all need money. It’s what we do with that money that matters. I don’t publish gutter journalism. My recent episodes about 9/11, home births, viruses, the history of the Roman Empire, the Artemis hoax, and others, are not gutter journalism. Unless you believe the mainstream narratives, that is.
It's not just what we do with the money that matters. It's also where (or who) it comes from, what we have to do to earn it and how that impacts others. "You cannot serve two masters." And readers/listeners/viewers have the right to know if a member of the "independent" media is actually independent - as in, serving them - or whether they answer first to another master: their paymaster.
‘Journalism’
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Everybody needs funding. It’s what we do with that funding that matters. Iain wrote a piece here that is gutter journalism.
Hear, hear! Thank you for this Iain. I follow David Hughes closely and I find his work to be impeccably evidenced, regardless of what he's writing about. Having read David's pieces on this whole controversy, it seems rather glaringly obvious that Jahnke is extremely dodgy and absolutely not to be trusted.
Over the years, I've read & heard a great deal of criticism of Vanessa Beeley, so a red flag went up when I came across her name in your piece. I have no idea whether or not it's true, but I've heard that she is an intelligence asset going back to Syria. I know she's blocked commenters who've called her out on her Syria reporting.
It's very difficult to know whom to trust or believe. The sources I closely follow - including yourself of course - include everyone at Max Blumenthal's The GrayZone, everyone at Ali Abunimah's Electronic Intifada, James Corbett, Sasha Latypova, Patrick Wood, David Hughes, Catherine Austin Fitts, Michel Chossudovsky, Jeremy Scahill's Drop Site News, Matthew Kennard, Mondoweiss, and Chris Hedges. I don't agree with them 100% of the time or on all issues but to the best of my ability I have ascertained that they are honest, trustworthy investigative journalists who possess integrity - a vanishing quality in this dystopia.
Cheers to you, Iain!
The challenge we all face now is that of being responsible and verifying our own sources of information. We cannot passively accept information from any source. We are responsible for finding and evaluating the truth ourselves.
I follow many different writers but none of them, (being human) can provide the whole truth. I always try to assess the accuracy of any and every statement.
Personally I welcome this challenge.
Absolutely. With practice, you can more easily spot lying propaganda. Needless to say, the corporate media does nothing but lie. One must be very discerning with independent media sources. A good example is Glenn Diesen, the Norwegian academic; some of his podcasts are good & informative such as with Mohamed Sayed Marandi but then he damages his credibility interviewing people like Jeffrey Sachs and former US military shills. A good source to follow is the Independent Media Alliance (I think Iain has been on it) with Whitney Webb, Derrick Broze, James Corbett, Catherine Austin Fitts, Ryan Cristian (The Last American Vagabond) & Kit Knightley (Off-Guardian).
You're entirely correct: even the best are still human & subject to various influences. For example, I disagree with James Corbett about the moon landing being faked. I disagree with Chris Hedges who continues to fall for the fraudulent climate change psy-op. Take what resonates with you & leave the rest.
Yes. Not everyone who is still in thrall to a false source is consciously lying. We have an immense heritage of lies to unpick, and people are competent, and focus, on different areas.
I agree with you about Sachs. I think the problem is these commenters like Diesen have to maintain their content output for financial reasons and are not able to be discriminating on all their sources.
I am unsure about David A Hughes
Why?
No!
Hughes is reliably trustworthy in my opinion. I have had private discussions with him and found him honest and able to be challenged.
Exactly!
Read this about Sasha L.... https://thirdparadigm.substack.com/p/sashas-daughter-soph
This is real gutter stuff. I have no idea about the veracity of any of this. I follow Sasha for her information on health fraud, the scamdemic and other related subjects. If true, this is very disturbing. In general, I don't engage with this kind of toxicity, it's very negative energy. I appreciate your providing the link.
You have to separate Sasha's writings in her area of competence (pharmaceutical law) from her opinions on unrelated issues where she can be unpredictable and maverick (like many non-conformers)
Also separate out her personal background and family issues. I think her daughter may have autism, but this is painful for Sasha to admit as she blames herself for giving the childhood vaccines that cause this.
Yes, Sasha has said a number of times that her daughter was vaccine injured. One cannot be blamed for ignorance. If I had known what I now know about vaccines, I would never have allowed my son to be injected. I attribute his allergy to seafood to vaccines.
These social media threads go on & on ad infinitum. I don't go on social media; I got off of Facebook over 6 years ago. I only read long-form journalism. Unbecoming is an excellent source.
The sheer quantity of content leads me to wonder how much of Unbekoming's content is AI generated!
I have recently gone onto X for news, but I find it a very depressing and agitating negative experience. I will probably stop or severely limit it.
I spend an inordinate amount of time reading extremely long articles from my inbox among the many individuals & outlets I subscribe to. I never miss the weekly Electronic Intifada livestream, watch all Max Blumenthal & Aaron Mate's livestreams on the Grayzone & virtually every episode of The Chris Hedges Report. I can't be bothered with the mindlessness of social media.
What?!!! I just cant believe what I just Saw. Please tell me it is a prank of some sort.
Sasha is One of the most trustworthy commentators since a handful of years.
Those assault riffle comments are just invredible rude and threatening.
I am amazed that you said that.... how have you missed all the spite she has delivered to our screens over the years?
I have somehow missed it. But then again, I have not in particular followed her closely enough to examine her in detail. I dont Think I have ever before heard public criticism of her.
Talk to her about EMFs….. watch her call you every name under the sun. She abused me FOR DAYS for suggesting that she was wrong. I mean swearing, insulting and goading like a fishwife.
Her behaviour ought not to be used to discredit her importance in her area of expertise.
Get over it!
Sasha's work in her expertise area is outstanding and was a game changer.
But she can be confrontational and extreme as well. Most non-conformists can also be difficult. This does not detract from the immense importance of her contribution in Pharma Law and the jabs with Katherine Watt. People have to rise above their personal grouches with her.
Great to get your take on it Iain and I agree with your overall sentiment. Essentially anything steering us away from the obvious agenda for a global totalitarian NWO and trying to sell it in as a positive should be cast out into the pied piper pile.
I was immediately suspicious of UKC when they started taking trips to China and essentially trivialising technocracy and I haven’t listened to one of Karl’s reports since.
I lived in HK for over a year and nobody goes there on holiday for 3 weeks unless you’re there to do business. So again, that raises a suspicion for me.
As much as I’ve appreciated a lot of UKC’s work and been a member, they’ve had an air of the Together group more and more. Basically giving you the impression stuff is being done so you can relax without getting a lot done.
Losing Sandi Adams as well just lost them more credibility IMHO.
I’ll be cancelling my membership.
Far be it for me to interfere in any of your financial decisions, but I meant what I said in the first half of the article just as much as I did in the second. I hope UKC prospers, and I did not write the piece to discourage their supporters.
I appreciate the thought but I’d already decided before reading your article having watched the interview and read their rebuttal.
With Sandi now gone, their content doesn’t really offer me much of interest anymore, it’s more depressing than solution based and I’m way past that point.
I don’t trust them for China-maxing, I think it’s wholly disingenuous. And if Marcel Janhke’s involvement in TNT Radio, only for that to implode, is anything to go by then I don’t hold out a lot of hope for UKC.
They need to head off this shit, get rid of Janhke and stop pretending it’s all innocent.
The holiday in China was not spent in Hong Kong. That was just the starting point.
As in Charles’ “holiday” wasn’t in Hong Kong?
Who are you talking about? I thought we were discussing Jeremy and Pepe's visit!
No I was referencing Charles Malet’s alleged 3-week trip to Hong Kong that Debi mentioned in the interview. She said that he reported from there whilst on holiday which UKC have rebutted.
One of my big problems with UKC is that they will not discuss geoengineering and chemtrails, why, would like to know
I stopped subscribing to Jerm when he was rude to me about geoengineering
You persist with your lies. I've discussed geoengineering multiple times, with multiple guests. YOU were rude to ME.
COVID is a great sign of whether a group is influenced.
It's ridiculous for Zha to promote lockdowns... If he was smart to hide the obvious connection, he should just not talk about it because it was a huge fraud.
We know that there was nothing new before the shots through statistics.
Years of life lost was basically zero before the shots because the average age of COVID deaths were around life expectancy.
The NYC and Bergamo death spikes in 2020 were falsified to promote fear. Here's a place that exposes that.
https://woodhouse76.com/
We see that there's tons of health freedom groups that still promote fear of bioweapons and some outlets that I used to follow are head strong in that lab leak bullshit false alternative.
But now I'm seeing a lot of people notice these contractions and sneaky omissions made by alt media.
It wasn't that way years ago.
It seems that as soon as they try to sell us a narrative like lab leak, that opens up people to look into things and see that some censored stories were seeded!
Thank you, Iain, for this "measured, well-considered and cool-headed response" to the recent kerfuffle. I put that in quotes, because as I was attempting to find the right words to express myself, I saw Chrissie Murray's comment and this is exactly what I wanted to say!
It is truly sad, that an outlet that I have admired and subscribed to for years, should be so resistant to recognizing and acknowledging how its actions wrt Marcel Jahnke's investment might compromise its integrity, or at the very least, give the appearance of having done so.
I was also a trifle astounded earlier by Patrick's coverage of the ICE incident in Minnesota, which I thought was very one-sided. I did point this out to him at the time, but I suppose my comment was just one of many and I did not receive any response.
While I sincerely hope that UKC heeds our concerns and takes appropriate restorative action, I suspect that things may already have gone too far for that to happen.
I have been a UKC member for several years and became concerned about their China centric coverage shift even before if was more widely discussed. David A Hughes has produced excellent work on Marcel Jahnke their new investor and also Reiner Fuellmich who was recently visited in prison by UKC. He has taken criticism from Jerm Warfare as well. I trusted the reports of Debbi Evans and Sandi Adams while they were at UKC, so probably no smoke without fire there? I probably won’t renew my membership as it does seem that the UKC independence has been compromised.
When I see friendly fire, I get suspicious.
When there is successful aligning around truth, a key tactic is to sew discord within the movement.
It’s not a MIGHT happen, but a WILL happen - just matter of when & by whom.
Especially the case with fire towards long-standing researchers who have proven their integrity over decades, or those that put out extremely powerful content.
So when I see friendly fire, its alarm bells for “Here it comes!” & I watch the situation or person closely for further clues.
I recall writing a response closely tied to an article by Ginsburg, which made me suspicious of him. This was about >3mo ago. I’m not surprised he’s now embroiled as a possible chaos agent.
Similarly for Hughes.
In this response I wrote about him there is a link to an excellent article by Arkmedic, Covid maestro, showing how it went down in Covid. The big divide was across No-Virus. If u have time read my response on Hughes, otherwise jump straight to the Arkmedic article link:
https://substack.com/@jojoj0/note/c-247468313
Arkmedic shows how the game is played & how it affected the covid movement & continues to do so.
Alison McDowell aired video content of researcher at Silicone Valley showing how to socially engineer tension between “Alice” & “Bob” (common names to denote theory explanations, including blockchain). This is a science & this will be used in narrative warfare.
Friendly fire - discord in the truth seeking movement - is an alarm bell to scrutinise further interactions for possible chaos creating outcomes.
Thank you for your honesty showing your own small mistake in the matter. It goes far towards showing your true integrity & goodwill.
I've been following this thread, and your opinions are considered and rational. I will continue to support UKC but as before, never uncritically.
I am glad Anne. I am really not trying to dissuade anyone from supporting UKC. What really concerns me about this debacle is that perfectly reasonable and legitimate questions, criticisms and concerns have devolved into a mass, virtual brawl.
We can't do this, in my view, and expect people to stay engaged.
Agreed