I'll respond simply for now as an increase in my pain had called for me to take some extra painkilling medicine and it makes me drowsy.
I am so glad Mr Oakley pointed out that this claim should never have been accepted in court least of all the High Court. He makes it so starkly clear tha…
I'll respond simply for now as an increase in my pain had called for me to take some extra painkilling medicine and it makes me drowsy.
I am so glad Mr Oakley pointed out that this claim should never have been accepted in court least of all the High Court. He makes it so starkly clear that Hibbert could not have been putting his daughter's interests first all along, by participating in the BBC program and by making this claim.
For this moment I will simply highlight what is so starkly shown by Mr Oakley's concentrating on the timeline of events which have been substantiated by Hibbert to bring out what, for me is the crux of this whole court affair. Indeed without it this court case would never have happened.
I shall quote from your reports, Iain, as I explain it.
This claim would never have reached court, (least of all the High Court of all places! if Mariana Spring had not seen how easily she could exploit Martin Hibbert and had the attention-seeking Martin Hibbert not been so keen to grasp the opportunity to be on television when invited by Mariana Spring for the BBC unethical ‘Disaster Trolls’ rubbish.
The evidence is in the dates.
2017 May Initial Impetus BANG!
2019 Summer RDH drives once to the road where Hibbert’s daughter lives with her mother, rings their doorbell, no reply. He speaks to a few neighbours, waits a while in his car, legally parked on the street. His dashcam records them arriving home and he sees the daughter is in a wheelchair. RDH decides not to bother them and leaves.
2020 RDH publishes the book and film about the Manchester Arena explosion.
Hibbert said he was only made aware of RDH’s visit in 2021.
Hibbert said he only became concerned about Hall’s work in the summer of 2021—more than year after it was first published and broadcast.
Hibbert conceded he was made aware of Hall’s work by third parties via social media but he had no evidence to sustain this. He stated that he had known Marianna Spring since 2021 and that Spring was among the people who had mentioned Hall and Hall’s work to him.
And there we have it.
The claim that should never have come to court at all , Is right here in the Central High Court (at massive expense).
Hibbert claimed to be in fear of his family’s and his safety after the BBC Panorama episode Disaster Deniers—first broadcast in October 2022. ‘Based on the alleged journalism of the BBC’s first social media and disinformation correspondent, Marianna Spring, Disaster Deniers featured Hall and levelled many of the same allegations, later made by Mr Hibbert, against him.’
In court Hibbert agrees that RDH did not contact any of them after that one visit in 2019. (Presumably until he, Hibbert, started the claim and RDH needed to reply, - about which this case has another incredible anomaly making us wonder why the hell it wasn't thrown out...)
In 2021 Hibbert says he met Mariana Spring who invited him to be part of her BBC program.
Hibbert said he was only made aware of RDH’s visit in 2021 and contacted the Police.
The Police ‘subsequently conducted door-to-door inquiries in the street where Miss Gillbard and Eve lived. As Part of their inquiries GMP investigated Hall’s book and his documentary.
In July 2021, the GMP concluded their investigation stating they found no evidence of any wrongdoing by Mr Hall. The GMP ceased their inquiries, and no further action was taken.’
Am I the only person in the country (or to borrow Hibbert’s preferred exclusivity, in the world,) to wonder why the GMP, regarding Hibbert's complaint about Richard, ' ‘saw no evidence of wrongdoing' BUT Mariana Spring of the BBC, can whip the nation to a fury of hatred against the proven innocent RDH, by her allegations of what she wants people to believe are his serial stalking and continual hounding of people recovering from what we must believe is the nation’s most terrible terror attack?
The Police spoke to people living in the road where Hibbert’s ex and daughter live, read his book and watched his film, and said they ‘saw no evidence of wrongdoing’. Yet Mariana Spring of the BBC, who is known for her fictitious CV and for inventing people online so she may falsify data, is believed! Despite the Police doing a proper investigation, M Spring finds the opposite of their result?
For have no doubts about it, if you feel tempted to pick your way through anything odd-looking, and start wandering up the avenues of conspiracy theories, you are absolutely placing yourself on the funny farm for bonkers idiots with mental disorders who are utterly unable to see the truth as it is placed plainly before them by reliable sound minded organisations such as the BBC. Just look at the programs the Beeb have bothered to make to prove this is so.*
We’ve seen Ms Spring, performing the very evils of which she accused Richard. She doesn’t like him filming people. She thinks it’s bad that he went to see people (he went once and didn’t see them to speak to and the Police were perfectly happy). But she persistently pestered Richard to be on her disgusting BBC show. Then, even after he had written to her telling her that he did not want to talk to her, and asking her in writing to stop bothering him, she turns up with a camera crew where he’s working, upsetting decent people, and films him and won’t go away until she has been asked many times to leave.
That is appalling conduct in a journalist. But far worse is the whipping up of hatred towards him which she has deliberately achieved by creating an entirely false impression of a very honest and decent man.
Of course she saw a fellow con artist in Hibbert. I’m not talking about his wheelchair use or any of that. She saw a man who adored the limelight, he was gasping for publicity. A man who could not suck up enough of the country’s delight in expressing righteous disgust. He just loved encouraging people to say they were, ‘Oh So Horrified and Disgusted!’ at the villainous deeds of the bad man for doubting their heroic survivor of that terrible attack! He even was dropping self pitying and 'would you believe it - if I hadn't saved her they'd have left her for dead, twice!' stories. Mariana is not just Mistress Man-ipulator, she recognises which ones to throw out there and be the biggest bait to ensure nobody ever doubts the Official Line, endorsed, of course, by the BBC! She saw in Hibbert the one who would play the part in the drama to the nth degree.
This trial would not have happened had not Mariana Spring set her predatory eyes on the attention-seeking Martin Hibbert, and had he not been so keen to grasp the opportunity to be on the BBC unethical ‘Disaster Trolls’ rubbish.
Once Mariana Spring set her eyes on Martin Hibbert poor Richard's life was inexorably and ruthlessly knocked out of his control.
But Richard has shown he is not beaten. I think no matter what the result - for the times are not right and we all know justice isn't prevalent, Richard has shown his integrity is so strong nothing will break him.
He is decent and honest and none of us will let him or his family suffer for the likes of people who do not know the meaning of 'truth'.
Just apologising for rather long rambling sentences above, I hope the gist is understandable. I had to take some morphine (flair up of pain) but I wanted very much to thank you today Iain.
Everyone - Iain wrote a lot of life-saving sense (because she was driving me out of my head) on Mariana Spring in case you missed it. Also a great piece about the rubbish work of Experimental Psychologists on 'Conspiracy Theorists' Listen to what he says on that;
(I'll copy in my note I wrote when I copied it into my notebook)
Why I love Iain Davis – an example
'It is difficult to express the monumental scale of the idiocy entailed in the experimental psychologists’ definition of “conspiracy theory.” It is exactly the same as asserting that any evidence offered to indicate that a crime has been committed is completely irrelevant unless the police have already caught the perpetrators and their guilt proven in court.'
later...
'It seems that Professor Gorman, at least, is convinced by this pabulum and was willing to present it to the BBC as scientific fact. Alas—rather as with Kaplan’s paper—these scientists’ conclusions, seemingly referenced by Gorman, were not supported by their own experimental results.'
Appreciated Leserly. Excellent comment above--not too long at all--and thank you for the praise in this comment. Sorry to hear about your pain. All the very best. Take care.
You're very kind Iain. Thank you it means a lot. I so wish I were able to do more - that I could move about and get to London and be with you all. But I don't lose faith - I do believe God moves in a mysterious way. I am certain that we are in the end times and the part where the devil, forces of evil, or whatever people personally name it - this extreme wickedness is totally prevalent at this time. I believe it is strongly working through the UN and all its 'bits' (e,g. the WHO). May I make a punt for a short but V helpful book? It isn't about religion! It's 'Agenda 21 – Your Life In Their Hands' by Martin Edwards £10.00, from https://shop.ukcolumn.org/product/agenda-21-your-life-in-their-hands-by-martin-edwards/
I hope people aren't put off by my belief in God and the prophecies in the Bible. I know it's extremely difficult to have this belief especially if you've had a bad religious education. I was incredibly lucky to have an experience that showed me that God is real. Most of all though, please may I urge people not to fall into the trap (used by satanists to fool you) that God can't be good because of all the evil and bad things in the world. All those horrible things, from illness to parasites to war, suffering and poverty etc are the work of the devil.
Please forgive this bit of a 'sermon' - I genuinely mean it lovingly and to help people, and I rarely speak of it. I know it isn't for everyone, and it's hard to explain unless we are in the same room..
My message is, ride the storm and hang in there. Support each other. The devil does not win in the end.
And God bless you Iain, for supporting Richard, for your excellent work and for bringing us together here.
With Love from Leserly xx
(don't panic! I'm no stalker! I'm old enough to be your mum and in my 'granny-age'! My love is genuinely similar to that of a granny for a grandchild.)
The events prophesied in the Revelation to John have all occurred some centuries ago and it is in fact possible to date the exact time that book was written based on the most quoted parts from within it. So I can honestly say there will be no second coming, it's already been and gone, the "end times" also. I can perhaps write a piece about it if you would like to learn more.
You are correct about the UN connection which is a Theosophist organisation at heart, one of their aims is to redefine the heavenly hierarchy into their disingenuous image. They aim to dethrone the Christ in heaven. The reasons behind this become obvious once you learn the real story of the secular life of the man known as the Christ and what he achieved which defeated the status quo of his time and which would topple the same today if the truth about him were widely known.
Practically all of the Bible is heavily distorted, all secular references have been removed, times, places and names have all been changed and obscured but for anyone seeking salvation and with a desire to know the Christ the gospels of Matthew, Mark, John and Luke despite the meddling still convey the core teachings and are of value. The rest is debatable.
As for the cause of all the suffering I have to disagree with you, the scripture teaches us that God is the creator of all good and all evil, one to reward the other to chastise. There is no omnipotent evil deity called the devil or satan. These are caricatures of a mortal man who can be identified in secular history. The imagery we have is the result of medieval superstition designed to manipulate the masses.
the most important being-'His dashcam records them arriving home and he sees the daughter is in a wheelchair.'
He could not confirm it was EVE, & to assume it was is naive considering the SPECTACLE constructed around this fiasco.
In fact I challenge anyone to find a CONVINCING image of EVE anywhere, as it seems most likely she never existed as PORTRAYED & imagined by the media/Hibbert.
Hearsay is not proof & assumptions are the key to much deceit.
All the images of EVE on-line involve image manipulations & that is why the DOUBLE images from the Restaurant were so important, yet evaded & ridiculed when ever they were mentioned- including among Davis & his sycophantic cronies here.
Superb reporting Iain. Bravo! Absolutely brilliant.
I'll respond simply for now as an increase in my pain had called for me to take some extra painkilling medicine and it makes me drowsy.
I am so glad Mr Oakley pointed out that this claim should never have been accepted in court least of all the High Court. He makes it so starkly clear that Hibbert could not have been putting his daughter's interests first all along, by participating in the BBC program and by making this claim.
For this moment I will simply highlight what is so starkly shown by Mr Oakley's concentrating on the timeline of events which have been substantiated by Hibbert to bring out what, for me is the crux of this whole court affair. Indeed without it this court case would never have happened.
I shall quote from your reports, Iain, as I explain it.
This claim would never have reached court, (least of all the High Court of all places! if Mariana Spring had not seen how easily she could exploit Martin Hibbert and had the attention-seeking Martin Hibbert not been so keen to grasp the opportunity to be on television when invited by Mariana Spring for the BBC unethical ‘Disaster Trolls’ rubbish.
The evidence is in the dates.
2017 May Initial Impetus BANG!
2019 Summer RDH drives once to the road where Hibbert’s daughter lives with her mother, rings their doorbell, no reply. He speaks to a few neighbours, waits a while in his car, legally parked on the street. His dashcam records them arriving home and he sees the daughter is in a wheelchair. RDH decides not to bother them and leaves.
2020 RDH publishes the book and film about the Manchester Arena explosion.
Hibbert said he was only made aware of RDH’s visit in 2021.
Hibbert said he only became concerned about Hall’s work in the summer of 2021—more than year after it was first published and broadcast.
Hibbert conceded he was made aware of Hall’s work by third parties via social media but he had no evidence to sustain this. He stated that he had known Marianna Spring since 2021 and that Spring was among the people who had mentioned Hall and Hall’s work to him.
And there we have it.
The claim that should never have come to court at all , Is right here in the Central High Court (at massive expense).
Hibbert claimed to be in fear of his family’s and his safety after the BBC Panorama episode Disaster Deniers—first broadcast in October 2022. ‘Based on the alleged journalism of the BBC’s first social media and disinformation correspondent, Marianna Spring, Disaster Deniers featured Hall and levelled many of the same allegations, later made by Mr Hibbert, against him.’
In court Hibbert agrees that RDH did not contact any of them after that one visit in 2019. (Presumably until he, Hibbert, started the claim and RDH needed to reply, - about which this case has another incredible anomaly making us wonder why the hell it wasn't thrown out...)
In 2021 Hibbert says he met Mariana Spring who invited him to be part of her BBC program.
Hibbert said he was only made aware of RDH’s visit in 2021 and contacted the Police.
The Police ‘subsequently conducted door-to-door inquiries in the street where Miss Gillbard and Eve lived. As Part of their inquiries GMP investigated Hall’s book and his documentary.
In July 2021, the GMP concluded their investigation stating they found no evidence of any wrongdoing by Mr Hall. The GMP ceased their inquiries, and no further action was taken.’
Am I the only person in the country (or to borrow Hibbert’s preferred exclusivity, in the world,) to wonder why the GMP, regarding Hibbert's complaint about Richard, ' ‘saw no evidence of wrongdoing' BUT Mariana Spring of the BBC, can whip the nation to a fury of hatred against the proven innocent RDH, by her allegations of what she wants people to believe are his serial stalking and continual hounding of people recovering from what we must believe is the nation’s most terrible terror attack?
The Police spoke to people living in the road where Hibbert’s ex and daughter live, read his book and watched his film, and said they ‘saw no evidence of wrongdoing’. Yet Mariana Spring of the BBC, who is known for her fictitious CV and for inventing people online so she may falsify data, is believed! Despite the Police doing a proper investigation, M Spring finds the opposite of their result?
For have no doubts about it, if you feel tempted to pick your way through anything odd-looking, and start wandering up the avenues of conspiracy theories, you are absolutely placing yourself on the funny farm for bonkers idiots with mental disorders who are utterly unable to see the truth as it is placed plainly before them by reliable sound minded organisations such as the BBC. Just look at the programs the Beeb have bothered to make to prove this is so.*
We’ve seen Ms Spring, performing the very evils of which she accused Richard. She doesn’t like him filming people. She thinks it’s bad that he went to see people (he went once and didn’t see them to speak to and the Police were perfectly happy). But she persistently pestered Richard to be on her disgusting BBC show. Then, even after he had written to her telling her that he did not want to talk to her, and asking her in writing to stop bothering him, she turns up with a camera crew where he’s working, upsetting decent people, and films him and won’t go away until she has been asked many times to leave.
That is appalling conduct in a journalist. But far worse is the whipping up of hatred towards him which she has deliberately achieved by creating an entirely false impression of a very honest and decent man.
Of course she saw a fellow con artist in Hibbert. I’m not talking about his wheelchair use or any of that. She saw a man who adored the limelight, he was gasping for publicity. A man who could not suck up enough of the country’s delight in expressing righteous disgust. He just loved encouraging people to say they were, ‘Oh So Horrified and Disgusted!’ at the villainous deeds of the bad man for doubting their heroic survivor of that terrible attack! He even was dropping self pitying and 'would you believe it - if I hadn't saved her they'd have left her for dead, twice!' stories. Mariana is not just Mistress Man-ipulator, she recognises which ones to throw out there and be the biggest bait to ensure nobody ever doubts the Official Line, endorsed, of course, by the BBC! She saw in Hibbert the one who would play the part in the drama to the nth degree.
This trial would not have happened had not Mariana Spring set her predatory eyes on the attention-seeking Martin Hibbert, and had he not been so keen to grasp the opportunity to be on the BBC unethical ‘Disaster Trolls’ rubbish.
Once Mariana Spring set her eyes on Martin Hibbert poor Richard's life was inexorably and ruthlessly knocked out of his control.
But Richard has shown he is not beaten. I think no matter what the result - for the times are not right and we all know justice isn't prevalent, Richard has shown his integrity is so strong nothing will break him.
He is decent and honest and none of us will let him or his family suffer for the likes of people who do not know the meaning of 'truth'.
Just apologising for rather long rambling sentences above, I hope the gist is understandable. I had to take some morphine (flair up of pain) but I wanted very much to thank you today Iain.
Everyone - Iain wrote a lot of life-saving sense (because she was driving me out of my head) on Mariana Spring in case you missed it. Also a great piece about the rubbish work of Experimental Psychologists on 'Conspiracy Theorists' Listen to what he says on that;
(I'll copy in my note I wrote when I copied it into my notebook)
Why I love Iain Davis – an example
'It is difficult to express the monumental scale of the idiocy entailed in the experimental psychologists’ definition of “conspiracy theory.” It is exactly the same as asserting that any evidence offered to indicate that a crime has been committed is completely irrelevant unless the police have already caught the perpetrators and their guilt proven in court.'
later...
'It seems that Professor Gorman, at least, is convinced by this pabulum and was willing to present it to the BBC as scientific fact. Alas—rather as with Kaplan’s paper—these scientists’ conclusions, seemingly referenced by Gorman, were not supported by their own experimental results.'
Appreciated Leserly. Excellent comment above--not too long at all--and thank you for the praise in this comment. Sorry to hear about your pain. All the very best. Take care.
You're very kind Iain. Thank you it means a lot. I so wish I were able to do more - that I could move about and get to London and be with you all. But I don't lose faith - I do believe God moves in a mysterious way. I am certain that we are in the end times and the part where the devil, forces of evil, or whatever people personally name it - this extreme wickedness is totally prevalent at this time. I believe it is strongly working through the UN and all its 'bits' (e,g. the WHO). May I make a punt for a short but V helpful book? It isn't about religion! It's 'Agenda 21 – Your Life In Their Hands' by Martin Edwards £10.00, from https://shop.ukcolumn.org/product/agenda-21-your-life-in-their-hands-by-martin-edwards/
I hope people aren't put off by my belief in God and the prophecies in the Bible. I know it's extremely difficult to have this belief especially if you've had a bad religious education. I was incredibly lucky to have an experience that showed me that God is real. Most of all though, please may I urge people not to fall into the trap (used by satanists to fool you) that God can't be good because of all the evil and bad things in the world. All those horrible things, from illness to parasites to war, suffering and poverty etc are the work of the devil.
Please forgive this bit of a 'sermon' - I genuinely mean it lovingly and to help people, and I rarely speak of it. I know it isn't for everyone, and it's hard to explain unless we are in the same room..
My message is, ride the storm and hang in there. Support each other. The devil does not win in the end.
And God bless you Iain, for supporting Richard, for your excellent work and for bringing us together here.
With Love from Leserly xx
(don't panic! I'm no stalker! I'm old enough to be your mum and in my 'granny-age'! My love is genuinely similar to that of a granny for a grandchild.)
The events prophesied in the Revelation to John have all occurred some centuries ago and it is in fact possible to date the exact time that book was written based on the most quoted parts from within it. So I can honestly say there will be no second coming, it's already been and gone, the "end times" also. I can perhaps write a piece about it if you would like to learn more.
You are correct about the UN connection which is a Theosophist organisation at heart, one of their aims is to redefine the heavenly hierarchy into their disingenuous image. They aim to dethrone the Christ in heaven. The reasons behind this become obvious once you learn the real story of the secular life of the man known as the Christ and what he achieved which defeated the status quo of his time and which would topple the same today if the truth about him were widely known.
Practically all of the Bible is heavily distorted, all secular references have been removed, times, places and names have all been changed and obscured but for anyone seeking salvation and with a desire to know the Christ the gospels of Matthew, Mark, John and Luke despite the meddling still convey the core teachings and are of value. The rest is debatable.
As for the cause of all the suffering I have to disagree with you, the scripture teaches us that God is the creator of all good and all evil, one to reward the other to chastise. There is no omnipotent evil deity called the devil or satan. These are caricatures of a mortal man who can be identified in secular history. The imagery we have is the result of medieval superstition designed to manipulate the masses.
This entire comment is wrong
A few assumptive errors there-
the most important being-'His dashcam records them arriving home and he sees the daughter is in a wheelchair.'
He could not confirm it was EVE, & to assume it was is naive considering the SPECTACLE constructed around this fiasco.
In fact I challenge anyone to find a CONVINCING image of EVE anywhere, as it seems most likely she never existed as PORTRAYED & imagined by the media/Hibbert.
Hearsay is not proof & assumptions are the key to much deceit.
All the images of EVE on-line involve image manipulations & that is why the DOUBLE images from the Restaurant were so important, yet evaded & ridiculed when ever they were mentioned- including among Davis & his sycophantic cronies here.
Well said Leserly!