Ah - I can answer your last sentence there - it's called 'the offer you can't refuse'. Do I need to explain that one?
I think this is in fact a far more common occurrence than a lot of people realise (obviously the intelligence services wouldn't want people to know how common it is). Certainly when it comes to counter-espionage one of the key things you look for is 'change in behaviour' - which usually occurs just after the time when you are recruited. The classic example is Kim Philby, who went from active Marxist/Communist to 'right wing journalist covering the Spanish civil war and even meeting Franco' and so on. The Philby case is fascinating precisely because it raises so many questions about British Intelligence's capabilities. You have questions like 1/ Were they really so dumb, with virtually zero proper vetting, that they didn't spot Philby a mile off right at the start by employing basic psychology? or, even more intriguing, 2/ Was Philby a British agent right from the start then getting himself recruited and playing the part of a Soviet agent - that's the really interesting 'what-if' question there. The fact that he was allowed to escape from Beirut likewise. Of course if British Intelligence weren't, erm, intelligent enough to come up with such a convoluted triple agent plan then that also says a lot, because they wouldn't be able to spot the same thing played against them.
Sorry, that was a bit of a digression/ramble. But the same kind of counter-espionage/subversion thinking should apply to/within the anti-Establishment movement.
I do think that a lot of people who start off as genuine anti-Establishment researchers are then given the proverbial offer, and become stuff like limited hangouts, info gatherers, subversion agents embedded within the anti-Establishment community (cognitive infiltrators) and so on. Especially given they will have already cultivated their bona fides.
Maybe I'll write a book on that stuff one day. Fascinating stuff.
This is really sad Iain. These pound shop Alex Jones theories really have little evidence behind them and the questions that should be asked of government and security services completely different.
I don't agree. The evidence it was a hoax is overwhelming. I hope, if you finish reading the series, you may come to appreciate that. But it is ultimately a matter of opinion.
If Shakespeare was right and “All the world’s a stage”, the Manchester bombing was just one nasty scene in the play. That being the case, substack and other platforms are also useful to the global mafia as the war against us is not just economic and political, but also spiritual and psychological. They can steer and monitor us using stories.
Seeking the truth and defending free speech is commendable and vital but we must not be distracted from the big picture by the stories that are thrown our way. We only have so much time and energy and they would not want us to investigate their plans to put us on blockchain, for example.
Blockchain technologies make traditional authoritarianism less likely but they make a new kind of authoritarianism, born of decentralised autonomous organisations (DAOs), more likely. Created to liberate computational systems from any and all human interference, DAOs have quietly been growing on decentralised networks like Ethereum.
In a few years we could find ourselves living according to rules set by a vast, mysterious hoard of nonhuman, and perhaps inhuman, entities. That would make a government run by Bojo look like a fond memory!
Thank you. Espionage agencies do no doubt do as you describe but who controls them? The global mafia, probably. They use the media and the internet as tools and increasingly will use technology to build an open digital prison.
There's an oak in front of the church. The reverend addresses it as a beech-tree. Some in the community oppose; some agree with the reverend but know he is wrong; some see a beech-tree. Some take a closer look and find out it's a lime-tree.
Do we focus a 'consciousness' in a prism of ideas, lies, or narratives, through which to explore the experience of a mythic personifiction filter; aka 'me' or my world?
That terrorism is used to mark out or frame our limits to permitted thought is to me so self-evident externally, but less obvious to the 'character' or my own identifiction.
Hence we 'see' the errors in the Othered as booster to a relative escape, dominance or moral superiority - aka judgement.
The Nature of Reality cannot Be defined - but alignment in truth brings all into a 'shared' quality of existence.
Maintaining self-illusions at cost of truth must demand sacrifice of truth (& the messengers of truth) to the idol of a false security or protection racket.
Perhaps the lies become so compounded and intractably self reinforcing as to seek release through a Great Forget or indeed Reset.
But beneath the lie is always a fallacy or an error of false idea accepted true - by which evils are generated that compound the false identification.
To the 'chosen elect' the status of lying will not be applicable to their 'justified war on the proscribed and targeted 'evil'.
But my take on that is of denials running blind as an existential fear-driven mindset.
The determination to 'know' something ELSE than feared truth will seek every means to be-live its convictions, by denial of the messengers of truth.
I cant make another's choices for them. Perhaps I might illuminate choice where gaslighting frames a powerlessness or compulsion?
Unless we recognise our 'identity and world-view' as currently active choice, we cannot BUT choose within the frame, matrix or overton window of a terror or threat-driven coping and survival strategy.
I chose to respond from a different point in part because chewing on a bone of contention is fruitless or joyless.
But that's not to diminish the choices that we each make for our own reasons -by which we might unfold better choices and thus more truly aligned or coherent outcomes.
The war on evil is not at all the same as the desire to heal through which the causes of fear are addressed where they are, so to be undone or released to a grounded wholeness of being - and thus also a capacity to reach to or recognise a like quality in others who may be deeply invested in nested defences against grievances set in lack or denial of right to be.
Note the pattern of countermeasures posing as 'solutions' is of a self-imposed cage of sickness, suffering and loss. To what degree are our defences locking in evils, such as to potect then under the banner or crusade of 'war on evil?'.
Our intolerance for pain of conflicted being (our experience of evil) needs be a basis for a call to heal - to a native curiosity of being for truth where lies confound, not variants of the demand for our respective 'normals' to be restored.
Iain, yeomans work sir. I see a lot of truth in most of Hall's work. Richie Allen is not a fan but I can forgive him that. I would love to hear you on his show, not necessarily about Manchester. Your body of work including UKCN IS UNIMPEACHABLE in my opinion. Bravo
If memory serves me correctly, wasn't Neil Sanders on with Richard Hall when he did Rich Planet?
Yes, he's been on Richard's show 9 times
https://www.richplanet.net/richp_search_menu.php?searchtext=+Neil+Sanders
I don't see how it's possible to go from alternative researcher to a system troll unless you were a system troll all along.
Ah - I can answer your last sentence there - it's called 'the offer you can't refuse'. Do I need to explain that one?
I think this is in fact a far more common occurrence than a lot of people realise (obviously the intelligence services wouldn't want people to know how common it is). Certainly when it comes to counter-espionage one of the key things you look for is 'change in behaviour' - which usually occurs just after the time when you are recruited. The classic example is Kim Philby, who went from active Marxist/Communist to 'right wing journalist covering the Spanish civil war and even meeting Franco' and so on. The Philby case is fascinating precisely because it raises so many questions about British Intelligence's capabilities. You have questions like 1/ Were they really so dumb, with virtually zero proper vetting, that they didn't spot Philby a mile off right at the start by employing basic psychology? or, even more intriguing, 2/ Was Philby a British agent right from the start then getting himself recruited and playing the part of a Soviet agent - that's the really interesting 'what-if' question there. The fact that he was allowed to escape from Beirut likewise. Of course if British Intelligence weren't, erm, intelligent enough to come up with such a convoluted triple agent plan then that also says a lot, because they wouldn't be able to spot the same thing played against them.
Sorry, that was a bit of a digression/ramble. But the same kind of counter-espionage/subversion thinking should apply to/within the anti-Establishment movement.
I do think that a lot of people who start off as genuine anti-Establishment researchers are then given the proverbial offer, and become stuff like limited hangouts, info gatherers, subversion agents embedded within the anti-Establishment community (cognitive infiltrators) and so on. Especially given they will have already cultivated their bona fides.
Maybe I'll write a book on that stuff one day. Fascinating stuff.
Sounds really interesting Iain, I look forward to it.
Ditto
This is really sad Iain. These pound shop Alex Jones theories really have little evidence behind them and the questions that should be asked of government and security services completely different.
I don't agree. The evidence it was a hoax is overwhelming. I hope, if you finish reading the series, you may come to appreciate that. But it is ultimately a matter of opinion.
Much appreciated. I don't have the time to monitor comments, so I appreciate the assistance.
If Shakespeare was right and “All the world’s a stage”, the Manchester bombing was just one nasty scene in the play. That being the case, substack and other platforms are also useful to the global mafia as the war against us is not just economic and political, but also spiritual and psychological. They can steer and monitor us using stories.
Seeking the truth and defending free speech is commendable and vital but we must not be distracted from the big picture by the stories that are thrown our way. We only have so much time and energy and they would not want us to investigate their plans to put us on blockchain, for example.
Blockchain technologies make traditional authoritarianism less likely but they make a new kind of authoritarianism, born of decentralised autonomous organisations (DAOs), more likely. Created to liberate computational systems from any and all human interference, DAOs have quietly been growing on decentralised networks like Ethereum.
In a few years we could find ourselves living according to rules set by a vast, mysterious hoard of nonhuman, and perhaps inhuman, entities. That would make a government run by Bojo look like a fond memory!
Thank you. Espionage agencies do no doubt do as you describe but who controls them? The global mafia, probably. They use the media and the internet as tools and increasingly will use technology to build an open digital prison.
Thank you for your explanation. What families do you think run the circus?
There's an oak in front of the church. The reverend addresses it as a beech-tree. Some in the community oppose; some agree with the reverend but know he is wrong; some see a beech-tree. Some take a closer look and find out it's a lime-tree.
Do we focus a 'consciousness' in a prism of ideas, lies, or narratives, through which to explore the experience of a mythic personifiction filter; aka 'me' or my world?
That terrorism is used to mark out or frame our limits to permitted thought is to me so self-evident externally, but less obvious to the 'character' or my own identifiction.
Hence we 'see' the errors in the Othered as booster to a relative escape, dominance or moral superiority - aka judgement.
The Nature of Reality cannot Be defined - but alignment in truth brings all into a 'shared' quality of existence.
Maintaining self-illusions at cost of truth must demand sacrifice of truth (& the messengers of truth) to the idol of a false security or protection racket.
Perhaps the lies become so compounded and intractably self reinforcing as to seek release through a Great Forget or indeed Reset.
But beneath the lie is always a fallacy or an error of false idea accepted true - by which evils are generated that compound the false identification.
To the 'chosen elect' the status of lying will not be applicable to their 'justified war on the proscribed and targeted 'evil'.
But my take on that is of denials running blind as an existential fear-driven mindset.
The determination to 'know' something ELSE than feared truth will seek every means to be-live its convictions, by denial of the messengers of truth.
I cant make another's choices for them. Perhaps I might illuminate choice where gaslighting frames a powerlessness or compulsion?
Unless we recognise our 'identity and world-view' as currently active choice, we cannot BUT choose within the frame, matrix or overton window of a terror or threat-driven coping and survival strategy.
I chose to respond from a different point in part because chewing on a bone of contention is fruitless or joyless.
But that's not to diminish the choices that we each make for our own reasons -by which we might unfold better choices and thus more truly aligned or coherent outcomes.
The war on evil is not at all the same as the desire to heal through which the causes of fear are addressed where they are, so to be undone or released to a grounded wholeness of being - and thus also a capacity to reach to or recognise a like quality in others who may be deeply invested in nested defences against grievances set in lack or denial of right to be.
Note the pattern of countermeasures posing as 'solutions' is of a self-imposed cage of sickness, suffering and loss. To what degree are our defences locking in evils, such as to potect then under the banner or crusade of 'war on evil?'.
Our intolerance for pain of conflicted being (our experience of evil) needs be a basis for a call to heal - to a native curiosity of being for truth where lies confound, not variants of the demand for our respective 'normals' to be restored.
Hall site was blocked by Google or frozen
But was accessible with brave or ddg
I told others
Man in jail re cox is innocent
I don’t understand tarot reference
Re comments
Who re his brother profession? In comments
Iain, yeomans work sir. I see a lot of truth in most of Hall's work. Richie Allen is not a fan but I can forgive him that. I would love to hear you on his show, not necessarily about Manchester. Your body of work including UKCN IS UNIMPEACHABLE in my opinion. Bravo